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Giants Diamond Girls: Nicole Vogelsong

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Giants Diamond Girls: Nicole Vogelsong

Amy: Thank you for logging on to csnbayarea.com. We have Nicole Vogelsong for a new webisode of Diamond Girls. And you are very, very popular. I read you on Twitter. You have your own fan base besides Ryan's fans and I'm so glad that you had time to do this, thank you.

Nicole: Thank you.

A: Let's just start with some baseball stuff before we get into the, the relationship stuff. This is a really, really good season for Ryan and for you too. And last season was incredible, but you guys dealt with the early onset of "Could he repeat that type of season?" And he's- clearly at this point, we're knocking on wood-

N: Knocking on wood.

A: He's had a really good year. What's that been like for you guys to kind of get the "fluke" word out of your vocabulary and out of your life.

N: It's been huge, I can honestly say. You know, I think we've always believed that he could do it. It was just a matter of doing it, and then last year he did it and he just kept doing it, and I know all off-season, you know, for the Giants to offer him a contract, that was huge. And that was like, that was when we were like, "Ok, you've done it. You know, you can do it." From the second he signed it it was "I gotta prove everyone wrong, that I was good enough to give this deal to."

A: So he knew right away that he was gonna face that.

N: He knew right away that it was gonna be "Can you do it again? You're- It's a fluke, it's never gonna happen." You know last year I think they quoted me saying like "I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop," and I can honestly say, you know, old habits die hard but that one has finally died. When he goes out there I don't worry about it anymore. I'm not worried about him giving up runs. I don't worry when guys- when bases are loaded. In fact I know that's when he's going to turn it up and do it. I worry more about the solo homer that might come off of the random guy who's not doing so well because it's his time, you know. He's due.

A: Right. Everyone has a time.

N: Everyone's due. Everyone gets their you know...minute in the sun there. And I'm just so, so proud. I, I can't- I can't be more proud.

A: Aww!

N: Everyone knows that. Everyone knows how, how great it's been.

A: Now, when I walk by the section where the wives sit and I see you, you are always into the game. Even if Ryan's not pitching, are you a baseball fan?

N: You know, growing up I used to go to games with my dad. I grew up in Pittsburgh and you know back in the day it was Barry Bonds and Jay Bell, and Bobby Bonilla was my favorite. And you know we used to go, and I- I still don't claim to know everything about baseball but back then I didn't know. But I knew that like, you know, you supported your team, and growing up in Pittsburgh we're Steelers, we're Penguins, we're Pirates. And so now I think I'm a Giant and I cheer for everyone. We're surrounded by such great people. I have the best wives around me and Ryan has the best teammates.

A: You guys have a good group.

N: Yeah, we uh- The front office is so great to us. You know, I love watching the games. I love- you know we sat in the outfield a couple of weeks ago, I love-

A: I know!

N: The Melkmen.

A: I didn't give you up.

N: We're going to do it again. We'll be out there.

A: Trying to watch like a real fan, yeah. It's hard.

N: I love the fist pump and I love the hat, and I wear my orange on Fridays, you know, like it's...It's part of being here, you know? Living it up and just appreciating that we're here. You know? We're here.

A: All right, tell us a little bit about life with Ryan. You have a son, an adorable son.

N: The Vogel-child, I call him.

A: The Vogel-child. And, uh, day to day duties. So, you know 'cause when I talk to wives of athletes, their husbands get home and the dishes still need to get done and the trash has to go out and the laundry has to get done.

N: Yeah...

A: All right, how helpful is Ryan around the house when he has time?

N: In all due respect, I let Ryan play baseball and I do everything else. I think you can go ask him that right now-

A: "With all due respect." I love that.

N: You can go ask him right now. I'm pretty sure he's gonna say the same thing.

A: What about off-season?

N: He does help. You know we take turns with Ryder every other day. You know, if we're out late we roshambo for who has to get up that morning. He's really good at it so I lose a lot.

A: That's funny:

N: But yeah, I, you know, he does take the trash out. He's not very handy hanging pictures or stuff like that. He's going to kill me. But no, you know, I know what it takes for him to get ready and for him to do his thing and to be the best he can. I don't "work," but I have that child.

A: Outside of the home.

N: I do, I do-

A: You do work.

N: I do everything I can to make life easy for him.

A: You do work. I see you. You work hard. You're a good momma.

N: I try.

A: All right now, here we go. Ryan said that neither one of you were good cooks, and I'm getting that that's not true. I think you've been working on that.

N: I, you know, God bless Pinterest because, you know, I'm not gonna lie. I probably had a good three things I make that are good. You know, there are other things I make, I'm not saying that they're good.

A: The go-tos.

N: But no, you know, I can make a mean roast and a good tuna noodle casserole and you know those are my stand-bys. Pinterest has me cooking up a storm and I made a huge dinner the other night, so for him to tell you that today, I'm a little upset.

A: Mm-hmm, he did.

N: Because he crushed dinner the other night.

A: I'm not trying to cause, you know, domestic problems, but he did say-

N: No, it's Ok. It's Ok. It'll be a long time before Momma cooks again. No, I'm kidding. I'm just kidding.

A: "Oh, yeah you don't like that?"

N: "You don't like what I cook? Ok I see how you are." No, no.

A: Ok, last one because I know you're a big fan of your husband and he's a big fan of you, but there's always something that bothers us about our spouses. Give us one that he's not going to get too mad that we know.

N: Ok. I feel like this is everyone. Every one of the girls have said the boys will leave their crap everywhere.

A: Yeah, Ali Bumgarner said that, for sure.

N: Yeah. Yeah, you know, at home we each have our own little side of the closet and we had them finished about a year ago and Ryan said to the guy, "I just want doors on my side. I don't want there to be anything open."

A: To cover up my mess.

N: Because he didn't want me to be able to yell at him for not folding or putting away his stuff.

A: Well you know, that's thoughtful because he's realizing-

N: That he needed to cover it up.

A: He's not going to be able to clean up his mess but he doesn't want you to have to see it.

N: Right. So that was very thoughtful.

A: So, but that's...points. Points for Ryan.

Offseason can be tense on other side of Giancarlo Stanton rumors

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Offseason can be tense on other side of Giancarlo Stanton rumors

SAN FRANCISCO — Just around dinner time on Monday, Tyler Beede got a call he had been waiting for. General manager Bobby Evans informed Beede, the Giants’ top pitching prospect, that he was being added to the 40-man roster, a significant step toward making his big league debut. Earlier that day, however, Beede’s phone brought him some unwanted news. 

Like most Giants fans, Beede woke up to a report out of South Florida that he was one of several names the Giants and Marlins had discussed in Giancarlo Stanton trade talks. For fans or team employees, it would be painful to give up a Beede or a Chris Shaw or a Joe Panik, but images of Stanton taking aim at the Coke bottle at AT&T Park would soon wash away most concerns. 

For players, the reality this time of year is much different. The Giants are the only organization that all of the rumored pieces have ever known. Panik is a New Yorker, but he and his wife have grown to love San Francisco. Beede and Shaw have spent years dreaming of debuting at AT&T Park and playing in front of sellout crowds. That makes the Hot Stove Season a particularly tense time of year. 

“I try to be a guy who doesn’t look those kinds of things up too frequently, but obviously I’m a normal guy, so I tend to dig into it a little bit more and see what’s going on and see what people are saying,” Beede said on this week’s Giants Insider Podcast. “It’s funny. I don't really know how to handle it. It’s my third year going through the trade deadline and trade talk. I’ve just go to keep telling myself it’s a realistic possibility and not to be shocked if anything were to come out or a trade were to be made.”

The rumor mill is nothing new for these players. Panik acknowledged several times during the season that he could be the odd man out. Shaw actually already once thought he got traded to Florida. For a few minutes at the 2016 deadline, Twitter had him as a key piece in the Matt Moore deal. The outfielder came out of a hotel bathroom right after the deadline to see two teammates staring at him in disbelief as Twitter rumors flew. 

Five minutes later, he got a call from Bobby Evans. “You’re still a Giant,” Evans told him. “Don’t take your jersey off.”

“It’s a little tense for sure,” Shaw said earlier this year. “It’s not something you can try to predict. You can have a feeling but that means nothing.”

Evans has always communicated to players and their agents that they can reach out any time they have a question or concern about what they might be hearing, but when it comes to getting on the phone himself, he treats the trade deadline and offseason differently. There’s more urgency to clear the air in July when players might have to take at-bats or throw pitches with rumors weighing on their minds. In the offseason, Evans will wait to reach out until deals are closer to being agreed upon. He tries not to worry as much about “hot stove banter,” he said. 

“In the offseason I think it’s a little less of an issue because a lot of things get thrown out there that don’t have validity,” he said. “We certainly don’t try to respond to every single rumor with an update because there are new rumors every hour, so it’s hard to keep up. A lot more names are mentioned this time of year.”

Players try to find different ways to get away from it all. Every year, several Giants prospects talk of playing golf during the trade deadline to stay away from MLB Network and their phones. For veterans, it’s often easiest to just take offseason vacations, and Panik planned to visit Europe with his wife. 

Beede has a somewhat unique distraction as rumors trickle out. He’s getting married on Saturday, which along with the holiday, has kept him busy all week. Still, he knows the rumors will be out there. 

“After a couple of days I start to just understand that (my) name is going to be in rumors or there may be things that people say or speculate,” he said. “(If) Bobby tells me something, or my agent says something, then I can start to maybe engage in it a little bit more. But as of right now, I’m just trying to go about my preparation and I’ll continue to enjoy being a San Francisco Giant.”

Projection system loves Giancarlo Stanton at AT&T Park

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Projection system loves Giancarlo Stanton at AT&T Park

SAN FRANCISCO — The Giants have made a habit in recent winters of “kicking the tires,” so to speak, on as many free agents as possible. General manager Bobby Evans is committed to being thorough, but at times there is probably no need. 

Hitters have made no secret of the fact that they prefer friendlier confines, and if you’re a power hitter, you’re going to ask Evans for a significantly larger check to play 81 of your games at the harshest power park in the majors. That’s what makes Giancarlo Stanton, readily available via trade, so intriguing. But would Stanton be fully immune to the realities of AT&T Park?

The numbers, at least in a small sample, suggest he would. Stanton has played 27 games in San Francisco and taken 108 at-bats. He has nine homers, 11 doubles and a triple. His .676 slugging percentage at AT&T Park isn’t far off his mark at Coors Field (.714), and his 1.048 OPS is higher than his OPS during the 2017 season, when he hit 59 homers. 

The damage has been done in limited time, but the Giants clearly believe it’s fully sustainable, and a recent study done by ESPN’s Dan Szymborski backs that up. Szymborski ran his ZiPS projection system to estimate Stanton’s stats over the next 10 years for a variety of suitors. The numbers in orange and black are overwhelming. 

The projections have Stanton at 46.2 WAR over the next 10 seasons, including 7.1 in 2018 and 6.8 in 2019, the two seasons the organization should be focused on given Madison Bumgarner’s contract situation. ZiPS projects Stanton at 46 homers next season if he plays for the Giants, followed by 43, 42, 39, 35 over the following four years. For comparison’s sake, Brandon Belt led the Giants in homers each of the last two seasons and he has 35 total during that span. 

Any sort of projection system needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt, especially with a player who has had injury issues in the past. But ZiPS believes Stanton -- who plays in a huge park already -- is a rarity, the kind of power hitter who can keep crushing well into his 30’s and put up huge numbers even if he is limited by the realities of getting older and getting hurt. Szymborski’s projections have Stanton playing just 102 games in 2025, but he’s still projected to hit 23 homers, 20 doubles and post an OPS+ of 121. Even in the 10th year of the projections, ZiPS has Stanton down for 16 homers. 

There are no sure things in this game, but as Evans continues to chase a blockbuster deal, he can be confident that Stanton is one player who should be able to provide power for years to come, no matter what AT&T Park does to hold hitters down.