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Giants say goodbye to L.A.

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Giants say goodbye to L.A.

GIANTS (84-71) vs.
L.A. DODGERS (77-77)Coverage begins at 6:30 p.m. on Comcast Sportsnet Bay Area
(AP) -- The San Francisco Giants haven't thrown in the towel on a making a return trip to the postseason. The defending World Series champions have the right pitcher scheduled to try and stay in the mix for at least one more day.Looking to win a career-best sixth consecutive start, Madison Bumgarner will take the mound for the Giants on Thursday night when they meet the Los Angeles Dodgers for the final time this season.After a one-run loss in Tuesday's series opener, San Francisco (84-71) got three hits and three RBIs from Justin Christian in Wednesday's 8-5 win.However, Arizona also won, reducing its magic number to win the NL West to two. With the Diamondbacks idle Thursday, the Giants would be eliminated from the division race if they lose to Arizona on Friday night at Chase Field.San Francisco is third in the wild-card race, two games behind St. Louis and 3 12 in back of Atlanta."We're in the mode right now where we got to win every game," Giants starter Ryan Vogelsong said. "The mood is try and win every night and see what happens."Bumgarner (12-12, 3.21 ERA) has put the Giants in a real good mood recently.He's surrendered just four earned runs over 34 2-3 innings during his five-start winning streak, which included a victory over the Dodgers on Sept. 11 in San Francisco. The left-hander gave up an unearned run over seven innings in Friday's 9-1 rout of Colorado."This kid is just getting better and better," manager Bruce Bochy said. "He's been on a good roll ... He's got to feel good about how it's gone for him, especially with the rough start that he had."Bumgarner was 0-6 in his first eight starts before beating the Dodgers on May 19 in Los Angeles.While Los Angeles (77-77) dropped to 8-9 against San Francisco with Wednesday's loss, Matt Kemp recorded his fifth straight multihit game with a homer and three RBIs.With 35 homers, Kemp is tied with Atlanta's Dan Uggla for second in the NL, one behind St. Louis' Albert Pujols. Kemp is third in the NL with a .322 average, leads the league in RBIs (116) and runs (106), and has a slight chance to reach 200 hits for the first time.Kemp, who needs 16 hits over the final eight games, is hitting .322 (19 for 59) with three homers and nine RBIs in 17 games against the Giants.He's 3 for 11 with three strikeouts when facing Bumgarner.After setting a career high for wins his last time out, Hiroki Kuroda (12-16, 3.19) will try once more to avoid becoming the first Dodger to lose 17 games since Fernando Valenzuela in 1984.Kuroda gave up an earned run and five hits in six innings of Friday's 7-2 win over Pittsburgh.He had allowed eight runs over 10 2-3 innings in losses at Washington and San Francisco earlier this month.After defeating the Giants at Chavez Ravine in his 2011 debut, Kuroda improved to 1-2 with a 6.35 ERA in four career home starts against San Francisco.Pablo Sandoval is 6 for 14 with three doubles, a homer and three RBIs lifetime against Kuroda. The third baseman is hitting .378 (17 for 45) with three homers and seven RBIs in 15 games versus the Dodgers in 2011.

Offseason can be tense on other side of Giancarlo Stanton rumors

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Offseason can be tense on other side of Giancarlo Stanton rumors

SAN FRANCISCO — Just around dinner time on Monday, Tyler Beede got a call he had been waiting for. General manager Bobby Evans informed Beede, the Giants’ top pitching prospect, that he was being added to the 40-man roster, a significant step toward making his big league debut. Earlier that day, however, Beede’s phone brought him some unwanted news. 

Like most Giants fans, Beede woke up to a report out of South Florida that he was one of several names the Giants and Marlins had discussed in Giancarlo Stanton trade talks. For fans or team employees, it would be painful to give up a Beede or a Chris Shaw or a Joe Panik, but images of Stanton taking aim at the Coke bottle at AT&T Park would soon wash away most concerns. 

For players, the reality this time of year is much different. The Giants are the only organization that all of the rumored pieces have ever known. Panik is a New Yorker, but he and his wife have grown to love San Francisco. Beede and Shaw have spent years dreaming of debuting at AT&T Park and playing in front of sellout crowds. That makes the Hot Stove Season a particularly tense time of year. 

“I try to be a guy who doesn’t look those kinds of things up too frequently, but obviously I’m a normal guy, so I tend to dig into it a little bit more and see what’s going on and see what people are saying,” Beede said on this week’s Giants Insider Podcast. “It’s funny. I don't really know how to handle it. It’s my third year going through the trade deadline and trade talk. I’ve just go to keep telling myself it’s a realistic possibility and not to be shocked if anything were to come out or a trade were to be made.”

The rumor mill is nothing new for these players. Panik acknowledged several times during the season that he could be the odd man out. Shaw actually already once thought he got traded to Florida. For a few minutes at the 2016 deadline, Twitter had him as a key piece in the Matt Moore deal. The outfielder came out of a hotel bathroom right after the deadline to see two teammates staring at him in disbelief as Twitter rumors flew. 

Five minutes later, he got a call from Bobby Evans. “You’re still a Giant,” Evans told him. “Don’t take your jersey off.”

“It’s a little tense for sure,” Shaw said earlier this year. “It’s not something you can try to predict. You can have a feeling but that means nothing.”

Evans has always communicated to players and their agents that they can reach out any time they have a question or concern about what they might be hearing, but when it comes to getting on the phone himself, he treats the trade deadline and offseason differently. There’s more urgency to clear the air in July when players might have to take at-bats or throw pitches with rumors weighing on their minds. In the offseason, Evans will wait to reach out until deals are closer to being agreed upon. He tries not to worry as much about “hot stove banter,” he said. 

“In the offseason I think it’s a little less of an issue because a lot of things get thrown out there that don’t have validity,” he said. “We certainly don’t try to respond to every single rumor with an update because there are new rumors every hour, so it’s hard to keep up. A lot more names are mentioned this time of year.”

Players try to find different ways to get away from it all. Every year, several Giants prospects talk of playing golf during the trade deadline to stay away from MLB Network and their phones. For veterans, it’s often easiest to just take offseason vacations, and Panik planned to visit Europe with his wife. 

Beede has a somewhat unique distraction as rumors trickle out. He’s getting married on Saturday, which along with the holiday, has kept him busy all week. Still, he knows the rumors will be out there. 

“After a couple of days I start to just understand that (my) name is going to be in rumors or there may be things that people say or speculate,” he said. “(If) Bobby tells me something, or my agent says something, then I can start to maybe engage in it a little bit more. But as of right now, I’m just trying to go about my preparation and I’ll continue to enjoy being a San Francisco Giant.”

Projection system loves Giancarlo Stanton at AT&T Park

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Projection system loves Giancarlo Stanton at AT&T Park

SAN FRANCISCO — The Giants have made a habit in recent winters of “kicking the tires,” so to speak, on as many free agents as possible. General manager Bobby Evans is committed to being thorough, but at times there is probably no need. 

Hitters have made no secret of the fact that they prefer friendlier confines, and if you’re a power hitter, you’re going to ask Evans for a significantly larger check to play 81 of your games at the harshest power park in the majors. That’s what makes Giancarlo Stanton, readily available via trade, so intriguing. But would Stanton be fully immune to the realities of AT&T Park?

The numbers, at least in a small sample, suggest he would. Stanton has played 27 games in San Francisco and taken 108 at-bats. He has nine homers, 11 doubles and a triple. His .676 slugging percentage at AT&T Park isn’t far off his mark at Coors Field (.714), and his 1.048 OPS is higher than his OPS during the 2017 season, when he hit 59 homers. 

The damage has been done in limited time, but the Giants clearly believe it’s fully sustainable, and a recent study done by ESPN’s Dan Szymborski backs that up. Szymborski ran his ZiPS projection system to estimate Stanton’s stats over the next 10 years for a variety of suitors. The numbers in orange and black are overwhelming. 

The projections have Stanton at 46.2 WAR over the next 10 seasons, including 7.1 in 2018 and 6.8 in 2019, the two seasons the organization should be focused on given Madison Bumgarner’s contract situation. ZiPS projects Stanton at 46 homers next season if he plays for the Giants, followed by 43, 42, 39, 35 over the following four years. For comparison’s sake, Brandon Belt led the Giants in homers each of the last two seasons and he has 35 total during that span. 

Any sort of projection system needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt, especially with a player who has had injury issues in the past. But ZiPS believes Stanton -- who plays in a huge park already -- is a rarity, the kind of power hitter who can keep crushing well into his 30’s and put up huge numbers even if he is limited by the realities of getting older and getting hurt. Szymborski’s projections have Stanton playing just 102 games in 2025, but he’s still projected to hit 23 homers, 20 doubles and post an OPS+ of 121. Even in the 10th year of the projections, ZiPS has Stanton down for 16 homers. 

There are no sure things in this game, but as Evans continues to chase a blockbuster deal, he can be confident that Stanton is one player who should be able to provide power for years to come, no matter what AT&T Park does to hold hitters down.