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Humbled Giants hope slumbering bats wake up on road trip

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Humbled Giants hope slumbering bats wake up on road trip

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SAN FRANCISCO The Giants marketing department is throwinga Slumber Party on the AT&T Park field Thursday night. The annual event comesat an appropriate time, since the Giants bats slumbered through the last twogames of a momentum-killing 10-game homestand, racking up just two runs onseven hits in back-to-back losses.The Giants are 32-23 at home and 24-26 on the road, but Bruce Bochy mayactually be looking forward to a seven-game road trip that starts Friday inColorado.Weve been awful here this past week, Bochy said. You getin these funks; theyre not fun. How we press on through these tough times willdetermine our season. Were in arut right now. Were not swinging the bats, our pitchings not quite as sharp.Youve got to regroup here and hopefully thats whats going to happen here onthe road.The Giants hit the road coming off one of a 9-1 loss, one oftheir ugliest of the season. In the first two innings, Barry Zito gave up fiveruns in two separate rallies that started with two outs and nobody on. The waythe Giants offense has been producing lately, even a stellar Zito startwouldnt have made much of a difference.We have to pick up the energy, everything, Bochy said. It was tough today.We got down early and just couldnt get much going with the bats. Really whathurt was the first five runs; theres two outs and nobody on. Its a tough wayto get started.A couple quick outs then those couple walks were thedifference there, Zito said of his two first-inning free passes that led tothe first two Mets runs. Youve got to bear down and put them away. But Idont think it was mental. I was fighting myself mechanically a little bit.That was the difference in the command today.Zito has now allowed 18 earned runs in the first inning ofhis 21 starts this season for an 8.10 ERA. He received a smattering of boos ashe walked back to the dugout in the middle of the fifth inning with the Giantstrailing 6-1. My timing was off so my command was erratic, Zito said.At times it was there, but at times the ball was up in the zone and I wasntcommanding the off-speed like I usually am.As bad as Zito was Thursday, the Giants lineup stole somenegative attention away from him. Take away Melky Cabreras three hits and theGiants were one-hit by Chris Young and two Ramirezes, Elvin and Ramon. Cabrerafinished a home run shy of the cycle and Brandon Belt had the only other hit, atriple that he may have had a chance to stretch into an inside-the-park homerun if not for a lackadaisical start out of the batters box. Cabrera scoredthe Giants lone run on a sacrifice fly off the bat of Hunter Pence, who isstill searching for his first hit since being traded to San Francisco.Pence, who hit .329 with five home runs and 10 RBIs in 20games as a visiting player at AT&T Park but is 0-for-6 with two strikeouts,a walk and an RBI in two games as a Giant, has no qualms with his new home.The offense has to get better, not the ballpark, Pence said. Theres a longway to go and were going to keep plugging away and continue to go out thereand get after it.Pence said he relishes the pressure of being the player theGiants acquired to lift a struggling offense and keep them in anever-tightening division race.I think it motivates you, Pence said of the expectations.Were in this race and thats something good. Hopefully Ill be able to feedoff of it and well get the whole offense clicking here.Like his shiny new toy Pence, Bochy is optimistic that theGiants will wake up.Weve been through some tough times and they have bouncedback, Bochy said. Earlier in the season we had our funks, our ruts, and theseguys found a way to get through it. But the team that snapped out of an early season slump is not the one thatBochy is trotting out there now. With the addition of Pence and fellow tradeacquisition Marco Scutaro, how can Bochy be sure that the chemistry that workedmonths ago will return to a new-look roster?Even though its a new group, a lot of these guys have beenaround and theyre experienced, Bochy said. I really believe once we getclicking here well get back on track and start having some fun again. Its nota lot of fun when you go out for a week and struggle the way we have. This gamecan humble you at times. It did here in this homestand.Not only do the Giants get a change of scenery in Colorado,they will also see a familiar face in Jonathan Sanchez staring them down fromthe Coors Field mound Friday. Now that Tim Lincecum appears to have at leasttemporarily righted his ship, Sanchez is arguably the worst pitcher in the bigleagues. But that doesnt make Bochy breathe any easier.It really doesnt matter who were facing, we just got toget these quality at-bats going again, Bochy said. We know Johnny. Hes gotgood stuff. Hes dangerous when hes out there. Hes got a good breaking ballalong with the fastball so we got to go out there and execute and hopefully getthese bats going.Zito will be a spectator in Colorado, where he threw acomplete game shutout on April 9 to put the Giants in the win column after aseason-opening sweep in Arizona, but is optimistic his teammates will reboundif they dont let the losses linger mentally. A lot of times when youre going into a rut, you try to press and do too muchand thats when you get farther in it, Zito said. So as a team, we just needto trust ourselves and know that were here for a reason. Weve been on topmost of the year and we just have to be ourselves.With both the Dodgers and Diamondbacks within striking distance, the Giantsmight need to be a little better than their usual selves to maintain theirdivision lead. Thats not exactly what Bochy is preaching, though. For the Giants' skipper, it's about attitude.
"Were in first place; we need tostart carrying ourselves like it and pick it up here, he said.

Offseason can be tense on other side of Giancarlo Stanton rumors

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Offseason can be tense on other side of Giancarlo Stanton rumors

SAN FRANCISCO — Just around dinner time on Monday, Tyler Beede got a call he had been waiting for. General manager Bobby Evans informed Beede, the Giants’ top pitching prospect, that he was being added to the 40-man roster, a significant step toward making his big league debut. Earlier that day, however, Beede’s phone brought him some unwanted news. 

Like most Giants fans, Beede woke up to a report out of South Florida that he was one of several names the Giants and Marlins had discussed in Giancarlo Stanton trade talks. For fans or team employees, it would be painful to give up a Beede or a Chris Shaw or a Joe Panik, but images of Stanton taking aim at the Coke bottle at AT&T Park would soon wash away most concerns. 

For players, the reality this time of year is much different. The Giants are the only organization that all of the rumored pieces have ever known. Panik is a New Yorker, but he and his wife have grown to love San Francisco. Beede and Shaw have spent years dreaming of debuting at AT&T Park and playing in front of sellout crowds. That makes the Hot Stove Season a particularly tense time of year. 

“I try to be a guy who doesn’t look those kinds of things up too frequently, but obviously I’m a normal guy, so I tend to dig into it a little bit more and see what’s going on and see what people are saying,” Beede said on this week’s Giants Insider Podcast. “It’s funny. I don't really know how to handle it. It’s my third year going through the trade deadline and trade talk. I’ve just go to keep telling myself it’s a realistic possibility and not to be shocked if anything were to come out or a trade were to be made.”

The rumor mill is nothing new for these players. Panik acknowledged several times during the season that he could be the odd man out. Shaw actually already once thought he got traded to Florida. For a few minutes at the 2016 deadline, Twitter had him as a key piece in the Matt Moore deal. The outfielder came out of a hotel bathroom right after the deadline to see two teammates staring at him in disbelief as Twitter rumors flew. 

Five minutes later, he got a call from Bobby Evans. “You’re still a Giant,” Evans told him. “Don’t take your jersey off.”

“It’s a little tense for sure,” Shaw said earlier this year. “It’s not something you can try to predict. You can have a feeling but that means nothing.”

Evans has always communicated to players and their agents that they can reach out any time they have a question or concern about what they might be hearing, but when it comes to getting on the phone himself, he treats the trade deadline and offseason differently. There’s more urgency to clear the air in July when players might have to take at-bats or throw pitches with rumors weighing on their minds. In the offseason, Evans will wait to reach out until deals are closer to being agreed upon. He tries not to worry as much about “hot stove banter,” he said. 

“In the offseason I think it’s a little less of an issue because a lot of things get thrown out there that don’t have validity,” he said. “We certainly don’t try to respond to every single rumor with an update because there are new rumors every hour, so it’s hard to keep up. A lot more names are mentioned this time of year.”

Players try to find different ways to get away from it all. Every year, several Giants prospects talk of playing golf during the trade deadline to stay away from MLB Network and their phones. For veterans, it’s often easiest to just take offseason vacations, and Panik planned to visit Europe with his wife. 

Beede has a somewhat unique distraction as rumors trickle out. He’s getting married on Saturday, which along with the holiday, has kept him busy all week. Still, he knows the rumors will be out there. 

“After a couple of days I start to just understand that (my) name is going to be in rumors or there may be things that people say or speculate,” he said. “(If) Bobby tells me something, or my agent says something, then I can start to maybe engage in it a little bit more. But as of right now, I’m just trying to go about my preparation and I’ll continue to enjoy being a San Francisco Giant.”

Projection system loves Giancarlo Stanton at AT&T Park

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Projection system loves Giancarlo Stanton at AT&T Park

SAN FRANCISCO — The Giants have made a habit in recent winters of “kicking the tires,” so to speak, on as many free agents as possible. General manager Bobby Evans is committed to being thorough, but at times there is probably no need. 

Hitters have made no secret of the fact that they prefer friendlier confines, and if you’re a power hitter, you’re going to ask Evans for a significantly larger check to play 81 of your games at the harshest power park in the majors. That’s what makes Giancarlo Stanton, readily available via trade, so intriguing. But would Stanton be fully immune to the realities of AT&T Park?

The numbers, at least in a small sample, suggest he would. Stanton has played 27 games in San Francisco and taken 108 at-bats. He has nine homers, 11 doubles and a triple. His .676 slugging percentage at AT&T Park isn’t far off his mark at Coors Field (.714), and his 1.048 OPS is higher than his OPS during the 2017 season, when he hit 59 homers. 

The damage has been done in limited time, but the Giants clearly believe it’s fully sustainable, and a recent study done by ESPN’s Dan Szymborski backs that up. Szymborski ran his ZiPS projection system to estimate Stanton’s stats over the next 10 years for a variety of suitors. The numbers in orange and black are overwhelming. 

The projections have Stanton at 46.2 WAR over the next 10 seasons, including 7.1 in 2018 and 6.8 in 2019, the two seasons the organization should be focused on given Madison Bumgarner’s contract situation. ZiPS projects Stanton at 46 homers next season if he plays for the Giants, followed by 43, 42, 39, 35 over the following four years. For comparison’s sake, Brandon Belt led the Giants in homers each of the last two seasons and he has 35 total during that span. 

Any sort of projection system needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt, especially with a player who has had injury issues in the past. But ZiPS believes Stanton -- who plays in a huge park already -- is a rarity, the kind of power hitter who can keep crushing well into his 30’s and put up huge numbers even if he is limited by the realities of getting older and getting hurt. Szymborski’s projections have Stanton playing just 102 games in 2025, but he’s still projected to hit 23 homers, 20 doubles and post an OPS+ of 121. Even in the 10th year of the projections, ZiPS has Stanton down for 16 homers. 

There are no sure things in this game, but as Evans continues to chase a blockbuster deal, he can be confident that Stanton is one player who should be able to provide power for years to come, no matter what AT&T Park does to hold hitters down.