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Palmer has a downright Plunkett-onian afternoon

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Palmer has a downright Plunkett-onian afternoon

OAKLAND -- Standing tall in the pocket, holding onto the ball until the last possible moment before throwing it downfield and absorbing brutal hit after brutal hit, Carson Palmer struck a familiar pose on Sunday.And the less-than-photogenic manner in which Palmer led the Raiders to their 26-23 overtime victory over Jacksonville was the same.Indeed, Palmer, whose forehead was scratched and bruised, had a downright Plunkett-onian game for the Raiders."An ugly win is better than a pretty loss," Palmer said, and could almost hear Jim Plunkett saying the same thing because, really, the two-time Super Bowl winning quarterback has essentially said the same thing.Or, at least, that's what Al Davis used to tell Plunkett.But Davis has been gone for more than a year and Palmer, acquired in that massive deal with Cincinnati in the wake of Davis' death last October, is no doubt earning the trust, respect and admiration of his teammates with every passing game. Every passing hit. Every big play after ever seemingly just-as-big miscue."That's what the good ones do," said coach Dennis Allen. "He was able to stay in there and continue to complete. He made enough plays to give us a chance to win the game."And he did it by sparking the stuck-in-the-mud offense in calling his own plays while running the Raiders' no-huddle offense in the second half."That's a big weapon," said rookie receiver Rod Streater, who had a huge 18-yard reception down the left sideline late in the fourth quarter and during the Raiders' game-tying drive."He has a lot of experience running the show."Consider: at halftime, the Raiders had just 127 yards of total offense against the decrepit Jaguars, with 106 coming through the air, and a mere four first downs.Even Plunkett's former Raiders coach, Tom Flores, admitted on the radio broadcast he felt like falling asleep in the first half. That's how boring it was for Oakland.But then the Raiders finished with 351 total yards, and 20 first downs.RELATED: Box score -- Raiders 26, Jaguars 23
Palmer's passer rating might have been an unsightly 74.4, with 298 yards on 26 of 46 passing with a touchdown and interception. But the only stat that mattered was the "W," so to speak."I've played this game long enough to know that just finding a way to get a win against a desperate team(I'm) just proud of the game we fought. Because it wasn't pretty (and) we did not play up to our standard or play the way that we were coachedbut guys hung in there."Palmer, with a major assist from the defense, rallied the Raiders back from a 10-point fourth-quarter deficit, just as he had in their victory over Pittsburgh last month.Of course, a pair of Palmer miscues -- an interception of a tipped Palmer pass and a fumble on a strip sack -- had led directly to six points for the Jaguars.Again, cue the comparisons to Plunkett, who also won a Heisman Trophy for a California school and was a No. 1 overall pick and oftentimes took fantastic beatings in winning NFL affairs.So if the no-huddle has had success against the Steelers, Atlanta and Jaguars, why not implement it more often?"It works sometime and it doesn't work sometimes," Palmer said. "It's not like you can just put it in and it's going to work automatically."It's a curveball."Kind of like Palmer leading the comeback victory. Not too many people saw it coming except, maybe, Plunkett himself.

Raiders notes: Did Mack, Irvin protest the firing of Norton Jr.?

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Raiders notes: Did Mack, Irvin protest the firing of Norton Jr.?

ALAMEDA – Edge rushers Bruce Irvin and Khalil Mack were given a rest day on Wednesday, which raised a few eyebrows.

Mack hadn’t missed practice in months. Irvin hadn’t been sidelined since the start of training camp. Both guys stretched and then left the field during individual drills a day after defensive coordinator Ken Norton was fired. Mack and Irvin were extremely loyal to Norton. An easy parallel could be drawn between the firing and Mack and Irvin’s rare, non-injury related missed practice.

Head coach Jack Del Rio said Friday there was no connection.

“Not even in the slightest really,” Del Rio said. “…We’re in good shape. The guys understand. It wasn’t anything personal.”

Del Rio insisted the rest was designed and scheduled.

“It’s something we do. It’s kind of a ‘Woodson Wednesday,’” Del Rio said. “We did it a lot with Charles toward the end of his career. We’ve had good success with guys that have taken a heavy load, being smart with them on that Wednesday. So, it’s just a rest day.”

Irvin and Mack have declined to comment on Norton’s firing and the missed Wednesday practice.

Johnny Holton concussion watch: Raiders receiver Johnny Holton is in the NFL’s concussion protocol, though he should be cleared out of it before Sunday’s clash against the Denver Broncos.

He ended up there in a roundabout way. The Raiders announced he was being evaluated for a concussion early in a 33-8 loss to New England, but returned later in the first half.

Then he missed Wednesday’s practice with concussion-like symptoms. That raised a red flag. Raiders head coach Jack Del Rio explained the sequence of events in greater detail on Friday.

“I’m at the mercy of those that are the experts in that field. He got a scratch on his eye. That was what occurred there (against New England),” Del Rio said. “(He) came in this week and had some symptoms, so we put him into the protocol and he went through the protocol. I believe he’s in the final steps now of clearing. We’ll get that final clearance he’ll play. If we don’t, he’ll be down.

“That’s a question mark going in that hasn’t yet been fully resolved, but since he came in and had the symptoms he had, those have gone away and everything else is checking out. We anticipate having him.”

Horton is formally considered questionable on the team’s official injury report. As a note, all head injuries are evaluated and diagnosed by independent medical personnel not directly affiliated with the team.

Amerson out again: Cornerback David Amerson will miss a fourth straight game with a foot injury that has kept him from practicing the last few weeks.

It just can’t get right, leaving the Raiders with the same beleaguered cornerback corps from recent weeks, with Sean Smith and TJ Carrie expected to play significant snaps. Dexter McDonald remains in a mix joined by career safety Obi Melifonwu, who played cornerback Sunday against New England.

"There can be injuries, there can be anything,” new defensive play caller John Pagano said. “He’s got to take advantage of next time when he’s called upon in those certain roles to be able to go out there and do the things that we need to do. there’s always going to be growing pains with young players. He’s got to grow up real quick and understand that we cannot let the ball go over our heads on those deep balls.”

Remember me? Raiders face Broncos with offensive architect on other sideline

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Remember me? Raiders face Broncos with offensive architect on other sideline

ALAMEDA – Raiders offensive coordinator Todd Downing is running a system Bill Musgrave installed in 2015.

Downing has put his stamp on it since being promoted from quarterbacks coach last winter and certainly has a different play calling style, but he didn’t burn it to the ground and start fresh.

“Honestly tweak-wise, there’s not a lot of tweaks,” Raiders quarterback Derek Carr said. “Game plan wise and things, we do things a little different. We call things differently now obviously because he’s in the division. But route concept-wise and things like that, we do a lot of the same similar stuff. Any time there’s a change, a coach is always going to have their tweaks.”

Even so, Musgrave might feel like he’s looking into a mirror Sunday afternoon when the Raiders play Denver at Oakland Coliseum. He’ll watch his offense work from the other sideline, calling plays from Mike McCoy’s selections.

This odd arrangement stems from Jack Del Rio’s decision to let Musgrave’s contract expire after two years as Raiders offensive coordinator. He promoted the in-demand Downing to that post, which left Musgrave to gain employment as Denver’s quarterbacks coach. He was promoted to OC on Monday, when McCoy got fired after Denver lost its sixth straight.

Fans didn't love Musgrave when he was in Oakland. They long for him now. The Raiders ranked sixth in total offense and seventh in scoring last year. Now they're 21st and 20th, respectively, in those categories. 

Having Musgrave calling plays for the enemy adds some intrigue to the matchup, though this isn’t a mentor-protégé matchup. Count Scott Linehan and Mike Tice as Downing’s primary professors. Those influences stand out most in Downing’s style, but Musgrave’s influence as a play caller exists in a small dose.

“I think there are elements of it. I won’t say personality traits, but maybe nuances of the game that you naturally talk to through as a coordinator and quarterback coach,” Downing said. “So, those experiences are kind of lived through the other coordinator. We were together for two years. I have some other influences that probably shape my play calling more than that.”

There’s a high level of respect between the two men, and Downing certainly appreciates his time working under Musgrave.

“He’s a very detailed guy. He likes to simplify and let the guys go execute. That was certainly something that I respected about the way he went through a game plan process. If there was something that wasn’t working itself out through the course of the practice week, we’d eliminate it or not run it on Sunday. Definitely picked that up.

“He has a broad scope understanding of offense. Being a quarterback as he is, or a former quarterback as he is, he’s not just a pass game guy. He has a good understanding of the run game and a good respect for the guys upfront being able to move the line of scrimmage. Definitely something that I admire and wanted to emulate.”

Downing and Musgrave won’t face each other directly. That’ll be new Raiders play caller John Pagano.

He took over Tuesday after Ken Norton’s firing, but doesn’t mean he’s new to the matchup. Pagano was the Chargers' defensive coordinator from 2012-16, and faced Musgrave twice a year the past two seasons. Musgrave won every matchup.

Pagano might look at Denver’s scheme and Musgrave’s tendencies when trying to silence the Broncos on Sunday.

“You always have to understand what he’s about and what little things pop into my head from seeing him, but you still have to go based off of what you’re seeing right now, the film that you’re seeing, the plays you’re going off of,” Pagano said. “You have to be prepared for everything. He does a great job and he always has those guys ready to play and there is always going to be something new.”