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Report: New list emerges of Giants prospects that fit Marlins' bill

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Report: New list emerges of Giants prospects that fit Marlins' bill

SAN FRANCISCO — The Marlins have apparently come up with a final list of Giants prospects they like, and it shows they’re aiming high. 

According to Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald, the Marlins, in discussions for Giancarlo Stanton, are focused on some combination of Tyler Beede, Chris Shaw, Heliot Ramos and Aramis Garcia, four of the Giants’ top 10 prospects. Beede, Shaw and Ramos are three of the organization’s four best prospects on most lists, and the majority of evaluators view Ramos as their top minor leaguer. According to Spencer, Joe Panik could also be part of any package. 

The inclusion of Ramos, last summer’s first-round pick, is noteworthy. The 18-year-old impressed in his first taste of professional ball and many evaluators believe he would be a top 10 pick if the draft was held again. The Giants believe Ramos can be a five-tool center fielder, with some in the organization comparing him to Yoenis Cespedes, but he is likely at least three years away from being ready for big league action. The Marlins would be smart to hold the line at Ramos, and the Giants likely would view that as a reasonable return, given Stanton’s status as the NL MVP. 

Garcia, a power-hitting catcher, is also a new name. Injuries have slowed his development and he has always been viewed as a likely trade chip since he’s permanently blocked by Buster Posey. Shaw and Beede have previously been rumored to be on the Marlins’ wish list, along with Panik, who still seems an odd choice given Dee Gordon's presence in Miami. 

There appears to be no timetable for a decision from the Marlins. Per Jon Morosi of MLB Network, Stanton’s representatives were meeting with St. Louis Cardinals officials on Friday night. Those same representatives quizzed Brian Sabean and Bobby Evans on Thursday in Los Angeles

Report: Marlins would 'likely' accept this Giants trade offer for Stanton

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Report: Marlins would 'likely' accept this Giants trade offer for Stanton

On Thursday morning, a report surfaced about Giancarlo Stanton's fear for the Giants' future

But even though Stanton reportedly has not formally told the Marlins he would accept a trade to the Giants, according to Jon Morosi of MLB Network, both teams are reportedly optimistic a deal would be approved by the NL MVP.

And, it appears a certain packagae of prospects, money and a 2015 All-Star from the Giants to the Marlins can get the trade complete. The Marlins would likely accept a package of Joe Panik plus prospects Tyler Beede and Chris Shaw, along with the Giants eating $250 million of the $295 million left on Stanton's contract. 

Panik hit .288 with 10 home runs in 2017. All 10 of his homers were on the road. The 27-year-old also won a Gold Glove in 2016. 

Beede, 24, was selected No. 14 overall by the Giants in the 2014 MLB Draft. He is considered the Giants' top pitching prospect and went 6-7 with a 4.79 ERA in Triple-A this year, though his season was cut short due to a groin injury. 

The Giants took Shaw, 24, No. 31 overall the next year in the 2015 MLB Draft. Shaw led the Giants at all levels with 24 home runs in 2017 between Double-A and Triple-A. He is left fielder converted from first base who is considered the top or near the top hitting prospect for the Giants. 

Stanton's contract runs through 2027, but he has an opt-out clause after the 2020 season.

Offseason can be tense on other side of Giancarlo Stanton rumors

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Offseason can be tense on other side of Giancarlo Stanton rumors

SAN FRANCISCO — Just around dinner time on Monday, Tyler Beede got a call he had been waiting for. General manager Bobby Evans informed Beede, the Giants’ top pitching prospect, that he was being added to the 40-man roster, a significant step toward making his big league debut. Earlier that day, however, Beede’s phone brought him some unwanted news. 

Like most Giants fans, Beede woke up to a report out of South Florida that he was one of several names the Giants and Marlins had discussed in Giancarlo Stanton trade talks. For fans or team employees, it would be painful to give up a Beede or a Chris Shaw or a Joe Panik, but images of Stanton taking aim at the Coke bottle at AT&T Park would soon wash away most concerns. 

For players, the reality this time of year is much different. The Giants are the only organization that all of the rumored pieces have ever known. Panik is a New Yorker, but he and his wife have grown to love San Francisco. Beede and Shaw have spent years dreaming of debuting at AT&T Park and playing in front of sellout crowds. That makes the Hot Stove Season a particularly tense time of year. 

“I try to be a guy who doesn’t look those kinds of things up too frequently, but obviously I’m a normal guy, so I tend to dig into it a little bit more and see what’s going on and see what people are saying,” Beede said on this week’s Giants Insider Podcast. “It’s funny. I don't really know how to handle it. It’s my third year going through the trade deadline and trade talk. I’ve just go to keep telling myself it’s a realistic possibility and not to be shocked if anything were to come out or a trade were to be made.”

The rumor mill is nothing new for these players. Panik acknowledged several times during the season that he could be the odd man out. Shaw actually already once thought he got traded to Florida. For a few minutes at the 2016 deadline, Twitter had him as a key piece in the Matt Moore deal. The outfielder came out of a hotel bathroom right after the deadline to see two teammates staring at him in disbelief as Twitter rumors flew. 

Five minutes later, he got a call from Bobby Evans. “You’re still a Giant,” Evans told him. “Don’t take your jersey off.”

“It’s a little tense for sure,” Shaw said earlier this year. “It’s not something you can try to predict. You can have a feeling but that means nothing.”

Evans has always communicated to players and their agents that they can reach out any time they have a question or concern about what they might be hearing, but when it comes to getting on the phone himself, he treats the trade deadline and offseason differently. There’s more urgency to clear the air in July when players might have to take at-bats or throw pitches with rumors weighing on their minds. In the offseason, Evans will wait to reach out until deals are closer to being agreed upon. He tries not to worry as much about “hot stove banter,” he said. 

“In the offseason I think it’s a little less of an issue because a lot of things get thrown out there that don’t have validity,” he said. “We certainly don’t try to respond to every single rumor with an update because there are new rumors every hour, so it’s hard to keep up. A lot more names are mentioned this time of year.”

Players try to find different ways to get away from it all. Every year, several Giants prospects talk of playing golf during the trade deadline to stay away from MLB Network and their phones. For veterans, it’s often easiest to just take offseason vacations, and Panik planned to visit Europe with his wife. 

Beede has a somewhat unique distraction as rumors trickle out. He’s getting married on Saturday, which along with the holiday, has kept him busy all week. Still, he knows the rumors will be out there. 

“After a couple of days I start to just understand that (my) name is going to be in rumors or there may be things that people say or speculate,” he said. “(If) Bobby tells me something, or my agent says something, then I can start to maybe engage in it a little bit more. But as of right now, I’m just trying to go about my preparation and I’ll continue to enjoy being a San Francisco Giant.”