Dante Scarnecchia

Protoypical Patriots: What they want on the O-line - Smart, tough, athletic

Protoypical Patriots: What they want on the O-line - Smart, tough, athletic

Before the Super Bowl, Dante Scarnecchia spoke to a small group of reporters and laid out exactly what the Patriots look for in their offensive linemen.

"We covet three things when we look for offensive linemen," Scarnecchia said. "They have to be smart, they have to be tough, and they have to be athletic enough."

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While there's certainly more to it than that, those are the basics. Check those off the list, and you'll have a chance. Someone like Cole Croston -- an undrafted rookie out of Iowa -- was able to spend the entirety of the 2017 season on the active roster with the Patriots because he met New England's criteria. 

The Patriots have a clear need for depth at offensive tackle after Nate Solder signed with the Giants, but are there players who can come in to be an immediate stopgap on the edge? If so, who are they? And if not, which developmental prospects could be fits?

Here are some names to keep in mind on draft weekend. These "prototypes" have what the Patriots typically look for in terms of size and athleticism up front:


I've been told by evaluators that when it comes to this class of tackles, McGlinchey might be the only one who is truly ready for regular work in the NFL. That doesn't mean others can't develop into starters -- and do so quickly. But it sounds like McGlinchey is already there, particularly in the running game. He has the requisite size that the Patriots look for. Though he's not one of the top athletes in the class (his 28.5-inch vertical is a little under what the Patriots often like), he seems athletic enough (his broad jump, for instance, was 105 inches, which meets New England's criteria). That he comes from a pro-style blocking scheme could also make him a quick fit. Scarnecchia attended McGlinchey's pro day.  


Length. Athleticism. Experience in a varied offense. Miller seems to have just about everything the Patriots look for. There seem to be some technique issues that Scarnecchia will have to work with to get Miller ready to go, but he's physically impressive. His 40 time (4.95 seconds) is more than quick enough. Same goes for his 31.5-inch vertical and his 121-inch broad jump. The jumps are significant because they show explosiveness, which for linemen -- who have to operate with force in tight spaces and explode out of their stances in pass protection -- is important. Miller told me at the combine he was scheduled to meet with New England. 


Williams has been deemed a guard by some because his size isn't necessarily ideal to play on the outside. And if he were drafted by the Patriots to play tackle, he'd be on the smaller side. But at 6-5 he's about the same height as Matt Light, and his arms (33 inches) are just a hair shorter than Sebastian Vollmer's (33 1/4). Athletically, he hits every standard. His 40 (almost five seconds flat) and jumps (34-inch vertical, 112-inch broad jump) were all very good. Belichick has a good relationship with Texas coach Tom Herman, and Williams reportedly paid the Patriots a visit during the pre-draft process. 

BRIAN O'NEILL, PITT, 6-7, 297 

O'Neill, like Miller, is another athletic prospect who will need some time. The former tight end is a little light compared to players the Patriots have drafted in the past. (Even Tony Garcia, whose knock against him was that he was light, weighed 302 pounds at the combine last year.) But athletically there are some eye-popping traits. He ran a 4.82-second 40-yard dash and had a 7.14-second three-cone drill. His jumps were good but not out-of-this-world (28.5 vertical, 107-inch broad). 


How much does arm length matter? If the answer for the Patriots is "a heckuva lot" then Smith may not be deemed a fit. His arms measured 32 1/4 inches, which would be shortest for any tackle they've ever drafted. Otherwise? He's just about what they're looking for. Trusted player in the SEC. Tough. Good height. Good athlete. He ran a 5.22-second 40, benched 35 reps, jumped 33.5 inches and broad-jumped 113 inches. 


Crosby measured in at 6-4 and one-half inch, earning him the "6-5" listing by a hair. And his arm-length (32 1/4 inches) are short. But athletically he's solid -- 30-inch vertical, 105-inch broad jump -- and he's considered to have good toughness. Late on Day 2 could be the right time to pounce if he's available. 


Jones is short but his arm length (35 1/8 inches) might make up for what he lacks in height. Athletically he's not outstanding. His 40-yard dash time is slower than what the Patriots typically like (5.5 seconds), and his jumps were nothing to write home about (24-inch vertical, 102-inch broad jump). But the Ohio State connection, where the coaching staff has obvious connections to New England and the offense is relatively balanced, could help him get drafted in the middle rounds. 

OTHERS TO KEEP IN MIND: NC State's Will Richardson (6-6, 306), who fits the physical profile but has a couple of off-the-field issues on his record; Western Michigan's Chukwuma Okorafor (6-6, 320), who had a good 40 time but whose jumps were somewhat lacking relative to what the Patriots often like to see; North Carolina A&T's Brandon Parker (6-8, 305), who faced a lower level of competition in college but impressed at the Senior Bowl; Pitt's Jaryd Jones-Smith (6-6, 317), who is incredibly long and tested well athletically at the combine, but dealt with a devastating leg injury in 2015; Stanford's David Bright (6-5, 299), who was a captain in a balanced offense but is light and may not have the athletic traits the Patriots want; Louisville's Geron Christian (6-5, 298), who has experience at both tackle spots and good athleticism but is light and didn't test at the combine due to a hamstring injury; Appalaichain State's Colby Gossett (6-5, 311), who has good size and could be a Day 3 choice.



Perry: Cost of quality offensive tackle depth going up for Pats

Perry: Cost of quality offensive tackle depth going up for Pats

About midway through last season, I sidled up to Nate Solder to ask him what he thought about the state of offensive line play in the NFL -- especially at tackle. 

The Seahawks, Cardinals and Texans were getting battered for their shaky protection units and theories were flooding the internet as to how the outlook up front had become so ugly on some rosters. 

Limited padded practices made it more difficult to teach young linemen to block, some argued. Others pointed to the rise of spread offenses in the college game as the primary issue. 

Solder shook his head. 

"I don't buy it," he said. "That might be true [to say tackle play has declined]. I wasn't in the league 10 years ago, so I don't know. But I think there are talented dudes coming in. The left tackle for the Ravens [Ronnie Stanley], the left tackle for the Titans [Taylor Lewan]. These are young dudes who play really well. These guys play really well their first year in the league. 

"I don't buy that totally. I think it's rare to have a person who can move and have that size. But I don't know if the way the game is going that it's hurting tackles. That's my take. Because I've watched tackles come in and play really well."

The supply of good tackles, though, particularly on the left side, seems to be outweighed by the demand. It's the reason the Patriots could lose Solder, 29, to free agency as early as next week. 

Solder isn't in the upper-tier of tackles in the NFL even by his own admission. (Jason Peters, Trent Williams and Tyron Smith are in a class of their own, Solder said. "I don't watch [Smith] because I can't get anything from it. He's really throwing guys down, and I'm like 'All right, that's not helping me.' ") Yet, Solder could receive a contract with an average annual value that would rival the top players at the position because there are few good options for teams in need. 

This year's free-agent class of tackles is light. Solder is the clear-cut No. 1, and his Patriots teammates LaAdrian Waddle and Cameron Fleming -- both of whom as scheduled to hit unrestricted free agency next week -- are among the next-best choices. 

In the draft, there may be just one NFL-ready left tackle. Only two tackles were taken in the first round last year and executive director of the Senior Bowl and longtime NFL personnel man Phil Savage told us on Quick Slants the Podcast that it's becoming tougher to pluck tackles from the college ranks.

"It's definitely become a challenge," Savage said. "We've always focused and talked about how the spread offenses in college have affected the quarterbacks, but in reality, it's impacted all of the positions, quite frankly. 

"You look at the offensive line nowadays and most schools are building what I call a five-man unit where there's no real distinction between the left tackle versus the right tackle versus the right guard versus the left guard. They're all kind of the same because they play as a unit. There's not as much of a premium placed on that left tackle as a standalone pass-protector... 

"This year, amazingly enough, I really only had one tackle [with a first-round grade following the combine, and that's [Notre Dame's] Mike McGlinchey. There's a couple of interior linemen like Will Hernandez from UTEP and Quenton Nelson from Notre Dame that are likely to go in the first round. But as far as just a tackle. Wow. It's staggering to think that there could only be really one tackle to go in the first round this year."

Despite the positional scarcity, somehow the Patriots were able to load up at tackle in 2017. Not only did they begin the year with two capable starters in Solder and Marcus Cannon, but Waddle, Fleming and Cole Croston (who can play guard and tackle) all made the 53-man roster out of training camp. Two more tackles, Tony Garcia and Andrew Jelks, spent the year in Dante Scarnecchia's meeting room but on reserve lists and unavailable. 

Keeping both Fleming and Waddle, in particular, caught some who make their livings outside the walls of Gillette Stadium by surprise.

"You really can't look and say, 'Oh we're tackle rich. Let's get rid of one.' Look what happened," Scarnecchia said just days before the Super Bowl. "We've had four tackles that've played this year. When you have good players, you have players that are good enough to play, you keep those guys around. You don't just get rid of them because you think you've got enough. You say, 'OK, this is what the deal's gonna be.' And we decided we wanted to keep four tackles, and I think that's helped us a lot . . . 

"It's not like [Fleming and Waddle are] not good players. They are good players. Their skill set seemed to fit that position pretty well. They have the traits that we covet. And they're both really smart guys, very willing learners, and they're both driven to be good and they want to play good. And I think all those things have manifested themselves when they've been out there playing. And we've been very, very pleased with what they've done for us this year."

When Cannon hit injured reserve halfway through the season, Waddle (four starts) and Fleming (seven) performed well in his absence. In one three-week stretch, Waddle started at right tackle against Denver's Von Miller, Oakland's Khalil Mack and Miami's Cameron Wake -- all of whom rush off of the offensive right side primarily -- and didn't allow a sack. Fleming gave up two quarterback hits and one sack combined as a starter against talented pass-rushers in the AFC title game and the Super Bowl.

I asked Bill Belichick in November about the team's roster construction, specifically as it related to their setup at tackle. They were hoarding players at a position where there don't seem to be enough players to hoard. And they used most of them. 

"I think that’s a position that I feel like is an important position to have depth there," Belichick said. "You want to have depth at every position but those guys are hard to find. If you’re tackle-poor I think that can show up a lot quicker than being poor at other positions. Tackle – you can help them a little bit but they’re single blocking most of the game. I’d say it’s hard to help that position. Not impossible, but it’s hard."

So. how did the Patriots get to a place where they were able to lose one of their best players -- Cannon was a second-team All-Pro in 2016 -- yet still continue to protect Tom Brady well enough to make the Super Bowl? 

First, look at the coaching. Scarnecchia's ability to shape and mold athletic, smart players into capable blockers has earned him a reputation as one of the best assistants in the league, and maybe even a Hall of Fame-level assistant, as Patriots Insider Tom E. Curran pointed out this week

"He demands a lot of us each and every day," Waddle said this past season. "It's not one of those things where you could have a bad day or you could take a day off or go easy one day. We don't work like that, man. We're always getting it. We're always working. He challenges us. He expects our best every day."

Second, look at where these tackles are coming from. Solder played in a pro-style system at Colorado. Fleming came out of Stanford and Croston came from Iowa. Even Jelks, who played at Vanderbilt, fits into the same category. All of those programs run pro-style schemes.

Having that type of experience is not imperative. Waddle came from Texas Tech, which ran a spread offense that hardly ran the football. Shaq Mason, arguably the team's best lineman in 2017, came from Georgia Tech's option offense that hardly passed. 

But having a pro-style background can ease the transition to the pro game. 

"We ran the pulls and the gap schemes and everything at Iowa," said Croston, who played under former Belichick assistants Kirk and Brian Ferentz in college. "I lucked out coming out of a system where it matched up pretty similarly."

Because the athletes are as big, strong and fast as they've ever been, if there are tackles who have some relevant college experience, and if they can take coaching . . . then you can run into what the Patriots ran into: Depth at a spot where everyone is clamoring for it. 

That's why, in the week leading up to the Super Bowl, Scarnecchia scoffed at the idea that offensive line play was tanking. Like Solder, Scarnecchia has seen too many good young players succeed to buy into that line of thinking. 

"Maybe 15 years ago, everyone was so put off and worried. 'Well everybody's running the wishbone and split-back veer, and none of those guys can pass-block.' Well, they could," Scarnecchia said. "Those that could, did. Those that couldn't, didn't

"That's no different than guys coming out of college right now. Some guys can't pass-block right now. They just don't have the skill to do it. But you can take a guy like Mason who's got good skills and you can teach him how to pass-block. And you can teach guys out of systems like Texas Tech, where they throw the ball a lot, and you can teach them how to run-block if they're tough guys and willing to do those things. 

"No, do I think the skill set of the offensive line has diminished? No. There's a lot of really good offensive linemen in this league right now that would transcend any era before them. They're just good players. I don't really think that's the case."

The fact remains, however, it's rare to do what the Patriots did at tackle last season. Two seasons prior, in 2015, when Solder hit IR after tearing his biceps, the Patriots struggled to field able players to man the outside. Bryan Stork, a center, started one game at right tackle. Sebastian Vollmer, a right tackle, kicked over to the left side for most of the season. They lacked depth, they were banged up, and they were overrun in the AFC Championship by the Broncos.

There are simply too many good pass-rushers around the league to try to get by with substandard talent at tackle in the modern NFL. At some point, you'll get exposed.

"You're kind of on an island," Waddle explained. "We're going against some freaks. Inside guys get freaks too, but being out there, there's a little more space. It's kind of hard to explain. You're kind of out there on your own, doing your own deal. Just dealing with those guys out there, it's tough. Those are freakish people on the planet."

When Solder dismissed the idea that tackle play was on the decline during our conversation, I asked him why it was perceived to be headed that way. Scoring was down about a point from the 2016 season to that point in the 2017 campaign, and so there might've been something to it, I said.

The discussion shifted to the economics of the league. 

"Where's the money going? Is the money going to the defense? I think that's what you should track," Solder said. "Not if tackle play has gotten worse. What are teams emphasizing? Know what I mean? Are the tackles just as good, but teams are stacking up on defense? If you have four good pass-rushers, that's going to look a lot different than if you have one good pass rusher. It depends on where you put your money on your team. I think where the money is going, the trends are going to who's winning . . . They're watching groups that are winning."

How the Eagles were built last season, then, could be a sign of what's to come. They had a defensive line that went eight deep and came up with the game-winning play in the Super Bowl in the final minutes of the fourth quarter. If it truly is a copycat league, that means offensive tackles won't just be dealing with freaks on the edge moving forward. They could be dealing with waves of them, making tackles as valuable as ever.

The franchise tag number for offensive linemen sits at just over $14 million this year, and someone like Solder, who earned his first Pro Bowl nod last season, could be offered a deal next week that pays him something in that range for multiple years. Additionally, Waddle and Fleming should receive significant raises based on what they showed last season.

The Patriots know as well as anyone how valuable it is to have quality depth at tackle -- just look at the difference between what happened in 2015 and 2017. Soon they'll see how much it will cost to maintain it.  

"I mean, that’s always a hard position," Belichick said in November. "Just take a look at the salary cap and look at the salaries. [They are] the guys that get paid the most money by position. I mean, that’s really all you need to know."



With Solder's return uncertain, Pats could in trouble at left tackle

With Solder's return uncertain, Pats could in trouble at left tackle

The Patriots have painted themselves into a corner at left tackle. Next week, Nate Solder -- who turns 30 in April -- will become a free agent.

Since being taken with the 17th overall pick in the 2011 draft, Solder's established himself as one of the league's better players at one of its most difficult positions. He's missed significant time just once. That was in 2015, when he tore his biceps against the Cowboys. The offensive line was never really the same after that and the AFC Championship Game against Denver was its nadir as Tom Brady took a merciless beating in a narrow loss.


The start to Solder's 2017 wasn't up to his standards. At all. But by midseason, he spun his year around.

Speaking to Phil Perry at the Super Bowl, this is what offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia said about Solder, "I think the switch just flipped, and I think it flipped for the better. I think we've seen a really good football player. I don't think he's really outspoken or really verbal, but when he says something everybody listens to it. The guy is a really bright guy and he's a really good player. He's a great guy . . . He's a dynamic run-blocker and a really good pass-blocker. I really like him. I like being around him."

Truthfully, Solder needed to do that. Because no matter how good he's been and no matter how direct and impactful he is as a leader in the Patriots locker room, what matters going forward is his performance. Whichever team signs Solder has to ask itself how good he will be at 32 or 33, playing left tackle against players who just keep getting faster, stronger and more impossible to block for 70 plays every Sunday.

He is at the top of the free-agent tackle class. Somebody is going to pay him. And it's a tribute to how shallow the pool is that teammates Cameron Fleming and La'Adrian Waddle are also in the mix as the best free-agent tackle prospects.

So the Patriots have three expiring contracts at left tackle. Last offseason, they traded a first-round pick to acquire Brandin Cooks and took a flamethrower to their second-round pick by trading it for Kony Ealy, who never played a down.

In the third round, they drafted Antonio Garcia from Troy University. Garcia had trouble keeping weight on in college -- he was consistently below 300 pounds as a senior -- then missed his rookie season with an illness that caused him to drop even more weight.


The Patriots -- primarily Scarnecchia, the lineman whisperer -- have had success through the years shepherding players from nowhere to capable. Marcus Cannon should present Scarnecchia in Canton if the voters were shrewd enough to realize he's been a Hall of Fame assistant.

Maybe that happens with Garcia. But it's a big “maybe.” And until Garcia or someone else develops, the Patriots will ask their 41-year-old quarterback to -- still, again, forever -- bail them out by taking the thrashing he'll surely get and keep on getting back up.

As much credit as Scarnecchia deserves for what he's done as a coach, Brady's ability to get the ball out quickly has covered for offensive-line development periods. So has the scheme and the skill position personnel, but it really comes back to Brady.

My sense from talking to Solder during the season is that he'd prefer to stay in New England. But he is also amenable to listening to other teams. My feeling is he will take into account all the information and make his decision. He doesn't know what's going to happen either.

Over his seven NFL seasons, Solder's made a little north of $35 million. Here are the top salaries at left tackle.

Anthony Castonzo, left tackle for the Colts, was taken five spots after Solder in 2011. He's made $43 million and is on the books to make $59 million through 2019.


This isn't to suggest the Patriots should do their business like the moronic Colts. Only that, when it comes to making his decision, these will be the things that inform Solder's decision.

Since 2001, the Patriots have had two main left tackles -- Matt Light and Solder. And Solder got to serve an apprentice season because the Patriots planned well at the position. It hasn't shaken out that way this time. And it should be a point of concern.