Isiah Thomas joins Bulls Talk Podcast to discuss notion of tanking and his childhood love for the Bulls


Isiah Thomas joins Bulls Talk Podcast to discuss notion of tanking and his childhood love for the Bulls

In the latest episode of the Bulls Talk Podcast, Turner Sports Analyst and Naismith Basketball Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas discusses his college recruitment as a prep star coming out of St. Joe's and his notion of student athletes being more than just students.

With the NCAA coming under more scrutiny, Thomas stated the the collegians in the revenue producing sports should be paid, and agreed that there's a racial element to the fact basketball and football players help produce billions of dollars for everyone except for themselves.

"I think it's a good thing for society, a bigger issue that needs to be discussed around sport and entertainment in this country," Thomas said. "The discussion should be able the scholarship, the indentured servant scholarship that the kids have to sign, giving up names, likeness, rights to your personhood that someone controls and you not getting paid for that."

In a wide-ranging interview that covered a lot of subjects, Thomas decried the widespread notion of tanking, where more than a handful of teams are using various methods to obtain a higher draft pick this summer.

"It's one of the cruelest and worst things that has happened to our sport," Thomas said. "When management or people outside of our sport can condone (purposeful losing). That goes against every fiber of athletic competition in sport that we were taught, that we believe in. And to be forced to do that, it's one of the greatest sins you can inflict on an athlete."

Thomas, who led the Detroit Pistons to NBA titles in 1989 and 1990, talked about his great rivalries with the Boston Celtics and the team he grew up loving, the Chicago Bulls. His rivalry with Michael Jordan was legendary on a number of levels, as the Pistons and Bulls met in the playoffs every year from 1988 to 1991.

"My rivalry was with the Chicago Bulls, not necessarily Michael Jordan. You heard me say thousands of times, we admired the way Michael Jordan played. Hands down, great athlete, great talent, the best athlete in our league at that time,"  Thomas said. "My job was to beat the Chicago Bulls every time I came to town. Make no mistake, his job was to beat the Detroit Pistons every time we played each other. That competition was great but just because I won more than he did doesn't mean I disliked him or he disliked me."

Despite their great rivalry and Thomas being known as a villain of sorts in Chicago, Thomas revealed he always wanted to play for the Bulls as a kid.

"I'm no different than (Detroiters) Jalen Rose or Chris Webber or Steve Smith who grew up wanting to play for the Detroit Pistons but ended up playing for another team," Thomas said. "I wanted to play for the Chicago Bulls. I ended up playing for the Detroit Pistons. But make no mistake about it. When I came back to Chicago. Whoever had Chicago on their jersey, while they represented Chicago, they weren't from Chicago. So I let them know how Chicago basketball players played."

Listen to the full episode at this link (iOS users can go here) or in the embedded player below. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts.

LeBron James' brilliance overpowers Denzel Valentine's career night for Bulls


LeBron James' brilliance overpowers Denzel Valentine's career night for Bulls

It look a little longer than perhaps LeBron James expected—or maybe not, given the recent woes from the Cleveland Cavaliers.

But it happens in a flash—no matter if it is a fadeaway jumper, darting pass through multiple defenders or a swat into the third row for an unsuspecting Cameron Payne, who acted like he hadn’t seen James’ movies.

It took an almost Herculean effort from the game’s best player to put away a pesky Bulls team, 114-109 Saturday at the United Center. James was without several regulars, including Rodney Hood, Tristan Thompson, Kevin Love and Kyle Korver—and his coach, Tyronn Lue, didn’t join the bench in the second half after getting ill.

The no-look passes, the easy drives to the basket, it’s hard to realize he’s playing in his 15th season but he’s at a level few can match, even if his team struggles to keep up.

Whatever he’s lost in athleticism, he’s gained in mastering the game and making sure it’s played at his pace.

Of course, we can quibble with his indifference to defense at times and make note of how that permeates to the rest of the team, as they let the Bulls back in way too many times.

But when you say that, it’s just as easy to see his passing makes his teams unselfish. The Cavs routinely swing the ball from a good shot to a great shot, even if it’s facilitated by James himself, as they had 25 assists on 44 field goals.

“Right now the game is effortless,” Bulls coach Fred Hoiberg said. “LeBron wants to be a passer first and that’s where he was hurting us early. And then he got loose and got to the rim.”

James led them with 12 in addition to his 33 points and 13 rebounds in 39 minutes, and the Cavaliers needed every bit of his production as the Bulls emptied the reservoir with four of their five regular starters out.

“I just want to get healthy,” James said. “It’s unfamiliar territory for a lot of guys, going in and out the lineup and having six guys out…I think it was a good (road) trip for us.”

The Bulls were missing Kris Dunn, Zach LaVine, Lauri Markkanen and Robin Lopez for various reasons.

Denzel Valentine filled in admirably for a career night and luckily, didn’t throw a cringing behind-the-back pass to the expensive seats. Buoyed by a lax defense from the opposition, he led the Bulls with 34 points, seven rebounds and six assists, hitting eight of 11 from long range in 34 minutes.

If it wasn’t for a late foul on Jordan Clarkson when the Bulls improbably tied the game at 105 with 1:41 left, the Bulls would’ve made things very interesting. But he made contact with Clarkson in the corner and the Cavaliers took a four-point lead.

James got a steal on the next possession and hit a fadeaway to complete his night, his 15th triple-double of the season.

“As soon as I went in a little bit he threw it out there,” Valentine said of James. “And I went to close out and boom. It’s just a learning moment.”

Valentine has earned praise from Hoiberg for filling a leadership void while Lopez and Justin Holiday have taken a backseat due to the organization’s wishes to evaluate young players for the rest of the season.

In the meantime, Valentine hopes he’s proving to be a starter at this level, not just a plug-and-play role player.

“I believe I’m a starter in this league,” Valentine said. “I believe I can be an important piece of an NBA team. But whatever my role on the team is that they want me to do, the organization wants me to do, I’ll do. But personally, I believe I’m a starter and I can contribute in major ways. I just got to keep working and keep getting better.”

Whether he’s a fringe starter or valuable piece off the bench, Valentine has at least shown to develop a consistent jump shot—which in today’s game puts him as a fit on any team. Shooting 39 percent on the season means if the Bulls make him available this offseason, they will have callers.

“It just shows what I’m capable of,” Valentine said. “I believe in myself even when I’m out there playing bad. But I put the work in no matter what happens, if I’m playing well [or], if I’m playing bad.”

His fearlessness, along with Bobby Portis and Cameron Payne, pulled the Bulls back from the brink after the Cavaliers took a 17-point lead before halftime.

Sixteen of his points came in the third, sending the United Center into a frenzy despite the fact a loss would be more beneficial for the franchise considering the New York Knicks destroyed the Charlotte Hornets, paving the way for the Bulls to slide back into eighth in the lottery standings.

Payne did his best to undermine the tank, with a career-high 10 assists go to with 13 points on five of 11 shooting. Portis was solid with 15 points and 15 rebounds, but had a late dunk blocked by Jeff Green.

And combined with Antonio Blakeney getting his shots up anytime he touched the ball, including on fast breaks when the Bulls had multiple-man advantages, just enough was done to give the Cavs the necessary room to end their 13-day road trip on a high note.

“We’ve got a lot of guys in positions they haven’t been in all year,” Hoiberg said. “I thought Cam was unbelievable pushing the pace, especially early in the game.”

Green added 21 and Clarkson came off the bench to score 19. All can thank James for their night—along with a fan he threw his armband to afterward, who was left in tears.

And had the Bulls actually won this game, both James and the Bulls fans would’ve been in tears.

Bulls Talk Podcast: Should the Bulls consider Trae Young?


Bulls Talk Podcast: Should the Bulls consider Trae Young?

On this edition of the Bulls Talk podcast, Mark Schanowski, Vincent Goodwill, and Kendall Gill discuss the concern over Zach Lavine’s inconsistent play, plus is it smart for the Bulls to offer him a max contract? Kendall also explains why the Bulls need to be careful not to lowball Lavine, like the Hornets did with him early in his career. Plus the trio discuss the early exit for Oklahoma and Trae Young. He’s likely to be there when the Bulls make their first pick, should they take him? And Vincent shares who the consensus top 5 picks are after talking with several NBA talent evaluators.