Forte: Somebody doesn't believe I'm an elite RB


Forte: Somebody doesn't believe I'm an elite RB

Wednesday, Sept. 21, 2011Posted: 12:05 p.m. Updated: 5:10 p.m.

By JohnMullin BearsInsider Follow @CSNMoonMullin
Deal or no deal?

Matt Forte has been the core of the Bears offense in the first two weeks of the season. That doesnt mean, however, that he is feeling appreciated.

Forte has thus far turned 2011 into a statement season, accounting for more than half of the team's combined offensive production against the Atlanta Falcons and New Orleans Saints. Yet the Bears have not yet locked up their feature back. Forte is left with one conclusion.

"Obviously somebody doesn't believe I'm an elite running back," Forte said.

Part of the reason may be that Forte has not flashed so much as a ball carrier as an all-around back. Forte stands just 17th in rushing after two weeks, with 117 total yards and an average of 4.5 yards per carry.

But Forte is No. 2 in the NFL with 324 yards, second only to Carolinas Steve Smiths 334 yards (perhaps no surprise given that Cam Newton has thrown for more than 400 yards in both of his NFL starts). And that should matter as far as Forte is concerned.

"I'd like to get paid off of the production," Forte said. "When you look at the production and what level that's on and you look at some of the guys who are producing and what they get paid, it's not that hard."

Heading into a Week 3 matchup with the rival Packers, Forte believes he just needs to stay the pace.

"I play like I know how to play every weekend, Forte said. That's all I can do."


The cost of the New Orleans Saints game will be felt for a while, particularly on an offense that now faces a defense that was No. 2 in the NFL last year in fewest points allowed.

As expected, wide receiver Earl Bennett (chest), tackle Gabe Carimi (knee) and safety Major Wright (head) did not practice Wednesday. Carimi, playing at an elite level according to line coach Mike Tice, will be out an extended period of time, and Bennetts return is unlikely this week, taking one of quarterback Jay Cutlers key receivers out of play as well.

Running back Marion Barber (calf), safety Chris Harris (hamstring), guard Lance Louis (guard) and wide receiver Roy Williams (groin) practiced on a limited basis.

The Green Bay Packers held linebacker Clay Matthews (quad) and safety Charles Woodson (foot) out of practice. Tackle Chad Clifton (knee), cornerback Davon House (ankle), defensive end Ryan Pickett (foot), linebacker Vic Sooto (back) and cornerback Tramon Williams (shoulder) practiced but were limited.

It takes a village

Former offensive coordinator John Shoop once famously said that it takes a village to run the football. He was right, but the reality is that it takes a football village to do just about anything on offense. One minor mistake equals an incomplete pass, sack or run being stuffed because of one missed block.

The Bears were missing both starting offensive linemen (tackle Gabe Carimi, guard Lance Louis) to the right of center last Sunday, which exponentially increases the chance for missteps, mistakes and misses. Indeed, the loss was felt in the running game as well as pass protection simply because Louis and Carimi are bigger, more physical players than replacements Chris Spencer and Frank Omiyale.

No member of the offense will admit to scaling anything back, if in fact anything does get cut out of a game plan or playbook at that point simply because the players capable of executing a particular play are not in place. And for public consumption, nothing is being trimmed going against the Green Bay Packers, either.

You know, we're going to do what we do, quarterback Jay Cutler said. Offensively, the guys, it's not like we're out there busting plays or forgetting stuff. We're just missing one little thing, offensively, like I said last year, this takes 11 guys and if we have one miscue the whole things going to go up in smoke.

No, I don't think we're going to dial anything back.

The Chicago Dangerfields?
Lack of respect has been a theme that has flowed through and around the Bears, whether being picked to finish in the NFC North below a Detroit team that hasnt won more than seven games in a season since 2000, or being an underdog, at home, as they are this week against the Packers.

The Bears thrive on it. Lovie Smith lets them, and the media, know about mistaken or perceived slights. But the key as the Bears see it is to take all with the same even-handedness, because respect is a fickle friend.

I dont know, said wide receiver Roy Williams. We were the greatest thing since sliced bread after Week 1. I said, we're going to hit some bumps in the road, and that'll be the true test of this football team, how we'll bounce back. There's no greater test than the Green Bay Packers, a 2-0 football team.

So if we win this one, then we're back to the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Identity missing?

Last season it took until the off week after the seventh game and a meeting among coaches to clarify some sort of identity for the Bears offense. Coming into training camp and preseason, much was made of how much further along the Bears would be this year, their second under coordinator Mike Martz.

Now, it sounds like the Bears dont really know who they are, and may need nearly as long again this year to figure it out.

I don't think anyone really in the league can pinpoint where they're at, unless you've got a real veteran team, and have been in the same system for a long time, Cutler said.

It's going to take five or six games to see what we have, to see what we're good at, and what we can go out there and execute well.

If some problems, like injuries, shuffling and poor play on the offensive line are not fixed before the fifth or sixth game, the rest of the games may not matter very much.

Cutler pointed out that the Bears were just 1-1 and there's a lot of football remaining.

But, if this continues, then obviously we're going to have a problem and we're going to have to adjust it, Cutler said. But we're looking forward to this next game and those guys are going to bounce back as will I.

Hate the Packers? Hate the Bears? Not these Bears or Packers

If you are looking for people who hate the Green Bay Packers, dont start with the Chicago Bears locker room.

I dont hate em, nose tackle Anthony Adams said, then added with a slight smile, just dont like them very much.

Its kind of like playing the neighborhood bully. Were the neighborhood bully for them just like theyre the neighborhood bully for us.

One of the central figures on the other side feels the same.

Its more something between the fans, said quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who has had a texting relationship with Cutler and enjoys seeing the Lance Briggses, Julius Pepperses and Brian Urlachers in the offseason.

I dont think theres a lot of hatred. But theres a lot of competitive guys who really want to win.

Player movement between teams can affect so-called rivalries but venom can still exist. Rogers cited Baltimore-Pittsburgh and even the Vikings and Lions in the NFC North.

I think maybe theres not as much respect as when the Bears and Packers play each other," he said.

Indeed, it may have been hearsay to the zealots, but during training camp this year, Urlacher said exactly what a lot of teammates feel about the Packers collectively and Rodgers personally: This is not a rivalry against the hated Green Bay Packers.

I have a lot of respect for them. A lot, Urlacher told I honestly dont hate the Packers. I want to beat them every time we play them. But theyre a good organization, just like the Bears.

If youre a player coming out of college and the Packers are interested in you, youre excited about that. Theyre great fans, great players, they want to win, they do things the right way. I have nothing but respect for them, their coaches, fans, players. I grew up watching the Packers playing the Cowboys, Favre, Antonio Freeman, all those guys. And how can you hate Aaron Rodgers? Good dude, plays hard, plays the game.

That said, the Bears indeed hate the feeling the Packers left in Soldier Field eight months ago. And watching film this week on the Packers meant being forced to watch a horror film in which they were the foils, the supporting actors.

They lifted the George Halas Trophy in Soldier Field, Adams said, slowly shaking his head. It stings, man, it really stings.

We were a couple plays away from playing in the Super Bowl so of course that hurts. Just watching the film was disheartening. It still hurts a little bit.

Defending the offense

Bears GM Jerry Angelo went on the offensive during training camp when he challenged talent detractors to tell him exactly what players the Bears should have pursued in free agency that they didnt. He didnt get a lot of suggestions.

Now, with his quarterback and offensive line under assault in the wake of six sacks in New Orleans, Angelo went back on the offense when asked about the perception that more could have been done to address the offensive line.

We did everything you could possibly do to that position, Angelo told the teams website on Wednesday. Nobody did more than the Chicago Bears. We drafted a player in the first round. We brought in a player with a lot of experience who is still in his prime. We developed young players who are going into their second and third years, including another high draft choice in Chris Williams. We like our eight linemen...

Everything that happened on Sunday wasnt all because of poor offensive line play. It was a collective failure... So lets not beat up on the offensive line.

Angelo didnt mention offensive coordinator Mike Martz by name but added his voice to the chorus calling for a better game-call than 52 pass plays and 11 runs.

Balance is the key to good offense; thats no secret, Angelo said. When defenses know what youre going or cant do, that gives them a decided advantage.
-- CSN's Jake Flannigan contributed to this story.

John "Moon" Mullin is's Bears Insider and appears regularly on Bears Postgame Live and Chicago Tribune Live. Follow Moon on Twitter for up-to-the-minute Bears information.

2017 Bears position grades: Offensive Line

2017 Bears position grades: Offensive Line

2017 grade: C+

Level of need: Medium

Decisions to be made on: Josh Sitton (contract), Eric Kush (contract), Hroniss Grasu (contract), Bobby Massie (contract), Tom Compton (free agent), Bradley Sowell (free agent)

Possible free agent targets: Andrew Norwell, D.J. Fluker, Justin Pugh, Josh Kline, Jonathan Cooper

How the Bears’ offensive line will shape up in 2018 begins with a decision on which the Bears are already on the clock. The team has until March 9 to pick up Josh Sitton’s 2018 option -- or, to put it another way, they have until March 9 to determine if Sitton was/is/will be good enough to justify keeping him and not netting about $8 million in cap savings, per Spotrac. 

For what it’s worth, Bleacher Report ranked Sitton as the league’s sixth-best guard in 2017. If the Bears’ grades of Sitton match those outside ones, then the team probably won’t cut him -- not destabilizing Mitchell Trubisky’s offensive line would be well worth the money in that case. While Sitton turns 32 in June, cutting him would put a lot of pressure on Kyle Long, who hasn’t been fully healthy since 2016. The Bears are hopeful that Long will be back to full strength after multiple offseason surgeries, but releasing Sitton and then signing/drafting his replacement would be a gamble on Long’s health. 

Sitton’s status is the first part of the Bears’ 2018 offensive line equation. There’s also a decision to be made on Bobby Massie, who Bleacher Report ranked as the NFL’s 14th-best right tackle last year but could be cut for about $5.5 million in cap savings, according to Spotrac. It wouldn’t be surprising if the Bears cut or kept both Sitton and Massie for now, then drafted an offensive lineman in the first round (like Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson or Texas tackle Connor Williams) and released one of them. Or they could keep both through the end of the 2018 season. All those options would make sense on some level.

What wouldn’t seem to make sense is the Bears cutting Sitton or Massie and replacing them with a free agent. This year’s offensive line free agent class, without adding any potential cap casualties to it, isn’t particularly strong. By Bleacher Report’s rankings, the best free agent right tackle is Houston’s Breno Giancomi, who’s 27th in that list -- 13 spots behind Massie. At left tackle, New England’s Nate Solder (No. 22) isn’t rated as highly as Charles Leno (No. 20), who we'll talk about in a bit here. 

The only potential upgrade available via free agency would be Carolina Panthers guard Andrew Norwell (No. 2 in B/R’s rankings), who’s 26 and is in line for a big payday this spring -- but that would seemingly be counter-intuitive to releasing Sitton and then potentially paying more money to a different guard, even if he’s younger and has more long-term upside. The Bears could opt for a cheaper guard in free agency who could have some potential working with respected O-line coach Harry Hiestand -- the Giants’ D.J. Fluker (57th in B/R’s rankings) or Justin Pugh (42nd) fit that mold, as would the Titans’ Josh Kline (37th) or Cowboys’ Jonathan Cooper (38th). Or the Bears could keep Sitton and still sign one of those guys as insurance in case Long and/or Eric Kush, who tore his ACL last training camp, isn’t ready to start the season. 

Tom Compton and Bradley Sowell proved to be serviceable backups last year and could be an option to return, even with a new coaching staff in place. The health of Kush, who was missed as a reliable backup in 2017, will be important in figuring out what the Bears' O-line depth looks like. Hroniss Grasu struggled when he was on the field and missed time due to a hand injury, and despite playing for offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich at Oregon could be on the chopping block before/during training camp. 

We’ll finish here with some thoughts on Leno and Cody Whitehair. Could the Bears upgrade at left tackle and displace Leno to the right side of the offensive line? Possibly, especially if Hiestand believes he can make that move work. But it’d be odd if the Bears shifted Leno off left tackle and then signed someone who’s older and, depending on the evaluator, not even as good as him. 

This is all probably a moot point, since the Bears’ internal evaluation of Leno is what matters here. Leno is 26 and the Bears believe he hasn’t reached his ceiling yet, so more than likely, he’s sticking where he is. At the very least, he’ll enter 2018 with a starting job on the Bears’ offensive line. 

One other offseason objective for Hiestand and the new coaching staff: Keeping Whitehair at the same position. Whitehair’s versatility felt like it worked against him at times last year, with the former regime opting to shift him between guard and center quite a bit from the start of training camp through the early part of the season. That instability seemed to affect Whitehair’s play, as he went through a bizarre patch of snapping issues after moving back to center and struggled to be as consistent as he was in 2016. But Whitehair finished 2017 strong, and keeping him at center for the entirety of 2018 could get him back on track to make his first Pro Bowl. 

2017 Bears position grades: Wide receivers

2017 Bears position grades: Wide receivers

2017 grade: D-

Level of need: High

Decisions to be made on: Markus Wheaton (contract), Dontrelle Inman (free agent), Kendall Wright (free agent), Josh Bellamy (free agent), Kevin White (fifth-year option)

Possible free agent targets: All of them? (But more specifically Jarvis Landry, Mike Wallace, Paul Richardson, Marqise Lee, Ryan Grant, Eric Decker, Albert Wilson, Donte Moncrief, Jaron Brown, Taylor Garbriel, Terrelle Pryor, John Brown, Allen Robinson)

The Bears cannot go into 2018 with a wide receiver core as weak as the one with which Mitchell Trubisky had to work in 2017. That doesn’t necessarily mean they have to go out and sign Jarvis Landry for huge money and then draft, say, Alabama’s Calvin Ridley, but adding multiple reliable wide receivers is a massive need for the offseason. A blend of free agents and draft picks seems like the most likely route.

Before we look at this year’s free agent class, a word on Cameron Meredith, who said this on locker cleanout day Jan. 1: “Training camp for sure I’ll be back. Right now it’s staying on pace so that I can do that. Yes, full recovery.”

The Bears shouldn’t count on Meredith to improve off his 66-catch, 888-yard 2016 season by virtue of him coming back from a torn ACL suffered last August. But it’s also not like any production from Meredith will be a bonus; if he’s even close to the player he was two years ago, he’ll be a significant part of the Bears’ offense.

So if the Bears are counting on Meredith to play in 2018, do they absolutely need to go out and splurge for the best receiver on the market in Jarvis Landry? Not necessarily. Landry reportedly wants Davante Adams money (four years, $58 million, with $32 million guaranteed) and might get more than that if a bidding war develops on the open market.

Would Landry be worth it? He followed consecutive 1,100-yard seasons in 2015 and 2016 with a league-leading 112 receptions in 2017, and won’t turn 26 until next November, so yeah, he very well could be. The Bears should have enough cap space to chase Landry, too.

But for a few reasons, Ryan Pace has either never landed nor pursued the priciest free agents in his three cycles as general manager. He splashed $38.75 million for Pernell McPhee in 2015; that was the 10th-largest free agent contract signed that year and has the 13th-highest amount of guaranteed money, per Spotrac. Danny Trevathan got $28 million in 2016 (22nd among free agents), and Mike Glennon’s ill-fated $45 million contract ranked 11th last year (with significantly less guaranteed money).

The other part of Pace’s free agency strategy hasn’t been under his control: The Bears just haven’t been an enticing destination lately. Cornerback A.J. Bouye -- 2017’s highest-paid free agent -- turned down more money from the Bears to sign with the Jacksonville Jaguars, for example.

The Bears hope that’s changing, with a promising franchise quarterback, a young and affable head coach and a major renovation to Halas Hall. For all the losing, and for all the gripes outside Lake Forest about John Fox, the Bears did have a good culture in their locker room. Selling the future of this franchise should be a lot easier in 2018 than it was in 2017.

Will that all add up to the Bears signing Landry to a huge contract? Not necessarily. The Bears could make a strong pitch and sizable offer, but he could be lured by another team that’s had more recent success (like the Oakland Raiders). Or Pace could continue to look for bargains in free agency, which hasn’t particularly worked out for him in the past, but then take a receiver with the Bears’ first-round pick.

But perhaps Pace will see his long-term vision coming together, and will see a big-ticket free agent like Landry being the guy who puts the Bears over the hump from winning to losing. He could be the franchise’s Jon Lester, or if you’re a hopeful White Sox fan, Manny Machado.

But here’s a counter to the argument for signing Landry: Kansas City’s offense last year didn’t have a big-time outside target. Tyreek Hill’s versatility and explosive playmaking ability made him the Chiefs’ best wide receiver, but he was able to line up at almost any position on the field. Albert Wilson (who’s a free agent) had the second-most targets of among Chiefs receivers with 62; tight end Travis Kelce was targeted a team-high 122 times.

The Bears don’t have a Hill or a Kelce on their roster. Tarik Cohen and Adam Shaheen could be the “light” versions of both, which may necessitate a need for better “traditional” wide receivers. That doesn’t necessarily mean Landry, to be fair.

Mike Wallace is 31 but showed he still has something in the tank, missing only one game the last two years while racking up 1,765 yards and eight touchdowns for the Baltimore Ravens. Paul Richardson had a breakout 2017 with the Seattle Seahawks, catching 44 passes for 703 yards with six touchdowns as an effective deep threat. Marqise Lee had 119 catches for 1,553 yards in the vertically-challenged Jaguars offense the last two years. Ryan Grant has never missed a game in his four-year career and is coming off a career best 45-catch, 573-yard season with Washington. The aforementioned Wilson caught 42 passes for 554 yards with the Chiefs last year, both career highs.

Perhaps no free agent receivers have as much to prove than Terrelle Pryor and Donte Moncrief. Pryor, like Alshon Jeffery, found the free agent market weak in 2017 and took a one-year prove-it deal, but instead turning it into an extension and Super Bowl ring, he bombed with only 20 catches for 240 yards with Washington. It’d be a risk, but if he can get the stink of 2017 off him and flash the talent that got him 77 receptions and over 1,000 yards with the Cleveland Browns in 2016, he’d be worth it.

Moncrief is another interesting name out there. He was targeted over 100 times in 2015 and caught 64 passes for 733 yards and six touchdowns as the big-bodied complement to T.Y. Hilton in Indianapolis, but struggled to stay healthy the last two years, only playing 21 games and totaling 56 receptions for 698 yards.

One other guy to highlight: Allen Robinson. The Jaguars probably won’t let him get away, but even if they do, would the Bears really want to sign him and then have three wide receivers coming off season-ending injuries (Meredith and Kevin White being the other two; Robinson tore his ACL in Week 1 last year). The Rams’ Sammy Watkins is also an impending free agent, but it’d be a huge surprise if Los Angeles let him hit the open market, so he’s not worth considering for the Bears right now.

We’ll see what direction Pace takes next month with free agency. But expect the Bears to return no more than one receiver from their Week 2 lineup -- Kendall Wright (59 receptions, 614 yards) is probably the only guy who could be back, if the two parties want to re-unite. Wright, as it stands for my grade, was the only guy keeping this unit from an “F,” as in a total failure.

Markus Wheaton, who became only one of nine players since 1992 to be targeted at least 15 times and catch fewer than 20 percent of those targets (he caught two passes), is likely to be cut. It’s unlikely Josh Bellamy or Dontrelle Inman will be re-signed (slight chance for Inman, but he disappeared in December). And the Bears probably will decline Kevin White’s fifth-year option, making 2018 a prove-it year for the former first-round pick.