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'Very very very' bad ninth inning stings Sox


'Very very very' bad ninth inning stings Sox

Saturday, April 9, 2011
Posted: April 8, 10:26 p.m. Updated: 12:06 a.m.

By Brett Ballantini
CHICAGO It was much too early in the season for Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen to be this exasperated.

But after Matt Thornton blew his second save in two tries on the young season in a ninth inning punctuated by very bad baseball, leading to a fall-from-ahead 9-7 loss to the heretofore-winless Tampa Bay Rays, Guillen was wiped out.

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Asked whether he would shuffle his bullpen roles to take some of the pressure off Thornton, who drew the dreaded BS-L for the game, Guillen lost patience for the first time this season.

I might put a bomb out there and kill everyone, Guillen said in frustration. What are my plans? Hmph You look at the game, Thornton gave up the runs, but we didnt help him. What is the plan? Right now, what should I do? I dont think I should do anything right now.

Thornton was shaken but otherwise measured after the game, exuding confidence even in the face of his toughest setback of the season.

Its a three-run lead and inexcusable to give that up in that situation, he said. The team played so good all game long and did such a great job with our offense, once again. They had a nice little cushion for us but I couldnt shut the door on it.

Finishing off a somewhat preposterous first week of the White Sox season, Thorntons miss blew the win for John Danks, who himself struggled to get an out in the seventh and left the game as disgusted as hes ever been in a Chicago uniform.

In the seventh, that was just embarrassingtheres no other way of putting it, Danks said. You have a guy trying to give you an easy out and I cant even get the ball to him. I dont know. Its embarrassing We had it set up to make a play and help me get out of the inning. I couldnt help myself. Its in the past and you move on. It would have been nice to get out of that inning on my own.

Jesse Crain came on to relieve Danks with none out and the bases loaded and did well to allow just one run to pass, on a failed double play-turned-fielders choice.

Jesse did a hell of a job, Danks said. I left him in a pretty crappy situation, and he came in and did a great job.

The White Sox escaped the seventh leading 5-4 and were further buoyed by a two-run single from Mark Teahen in the eighth, providing what seemed to be icing on the cake and capping a terrific 3-for-4, three-RBI night.

Individually, it felt good to get out there and get some chances and produce, Teahen said. The goal is to win, and we came up short of that goal. Well get after it tomorrow.

Indeed, Teahens two-out knock turned out to be the equivalent of spitting on a cupcake and calling it frosting, as a half-frame later, the game fell apart for the Pale Hose.

Four hits off Thornton were spaced by a throwing error by Alexei Ramirez and a fielding error by Juan Pierre, culminating in the worst inning of baseball the White Sox have played all season.

In the ninth inning we played very bad baseball, Guillen said. People can point or do whatever they wantwe played a very good baseball game, all the way to the ninth. Thats Thorntons job, to go out there and save games but obviously we did not help to make the inning very easy.

The death knell was a game-winning, three-run homer by Dan Johnson, which propelled the Rays to their first win of the season, in front of a chilly and stunned Chicago crowd. It wasnt just Tampas first lead of the season, it allowed it to avoid dropping to 0-7, which would have been the worst start by a defending division champion in baseball history.

Aside from that pitch to JohnsonI made a mistake over the plate against himI felt like I was throwing the ball pretty well. They did the job putting it in play and making things happen for them.

Gordon Beckham (3-for-5 with three extra-base hits), Ramirez and Teahen had home runs for the White Sox.

For one night, the White Sox were left to traipse dangerously close to clich and line up behind a fallen teammate.

As clich as it sounds, its only one game, Danks said. We know these guys are going to play great defensethey did the whole game for me. It just happens. There really is no explanation for it. Matt threw the ball well and these guys made plays, a couple of plays didnt get made but all in all, we like our chances.

Keeping it in perspective

Thornton again was brutally honestand awfully sweetwhen asked when he will forget tonights ninth-inning meltdown.

Maybe when I see my daughter in the morning Ill forget about it.

1900 style

Taking until the ninth inning of their seventh game to hold their first lead made Tampa Bay the team taking the longest to hold a lead since the 1900 season.

Peavy Watch

Jake Peavy threw 71 pitches in his rehabilitation start on Friday for Double-A Birmingham at Montgomery, piling up strong numbers although failing to get through the fourth inning.

Everything went well tonight, he said. It was a step in the right direction. My arm felt better than it has in quite a while. I made some good pitches and some bad pitches. Overall, I was very, very pleased the way the night went.

The goal for the start was 75 pitches and five innings, so Peavy fell short of both in his effort, pitching 3 23 innings and giving up two unearned runs on five hits, with four strikeouts measured against a walk and a wild pitch.

I didnt command the ball the way I hoped, he said. But it was nice to be under some lights in a nice competitive atmosphere.

Unlike a controlled setting of a side session or simulated game, Peavy found that pitching against an aggressive Montgomery club scuttled his strategy for the start.

I didnt work on anything particular, he said. I was down here, and not speaking down about anything but they had very aggressive hitters tonight. I had to pitch a little backwards. When your command wasnt the best in the world as far as fastball and youre facing aggressive guys, you want to change speeds. I did a good job of that, keeping the ball off the barrel.

Peavy will work out on Saturday, with some running, lifting, and shoulder program work, then will join the White Sox for his first games with the teamstill inactive, watching from the dugout, of course.

But if you ask Peavy, hed be pitching for the White Sox next week.

Im going to let the White Sox make those decisions, he said. I dont want to stay down here working on anything. When my pitch count is where it needs to be I want to pitch in the big leagues five days from now. If it was up to me, I would throw 90 in the big leagues on Wednesday. Thats not realistic. So you do what the team asks you to do, and be smart.

"I feel like my arm strength is getting there. During Spring Training, I was facing big league hitters and big league lineups. I believe Im going to get outs. If it was reasonable to have a starter on 75 or 90 pitches, I would pitch in the big leagues tonight. But you have to be reasonable. I want to take the mound close to how Im used to taking it-- for the most part healthy and feeling like I can go out and do what Edwin did at times and on the days I dont have it battle to keep the team in it."

Brett Ballantini is CSNChicago.coms White Sox Insider. Follow him @CSNChi_Beatnik on Twitter for up-to-the-minute Sox information.

White Sox opposition research: What's there to know about the Baltimore Orioles?


White Sox opposition research: What's there to know about the Baltimore Orioles?

As the 2018 season nears and the White Sox get ready to take on the rest of the American League, we're taking a team-by-team look at all 14 of their opponents.

What’s there to know about the Baltimore Orioles?

Perhaps a better question for White Sox fans: When’s Manny Machado coming to the South Side? (Better question from me, personally, is when Chicago might acquire Maryland's greatest creation: the crab pretzel. Had in College Park last summer. It's amazing.)

Whether that ends up happening or not is a question for next offseason, but that query is one that plenty of South Side baseball fans on social media have asked for years now. Machado, mentioned in trade rumors during the Winter Meetings in December, is most likely entering his final season as an Oriole. His contract is up at season’s end, and he’s expected to land a gargantuan deal next offseason.

The funny thing is that for all the hullabaloo over the 25-year-old infielder, he’s coming off his worst statistical campaign as a big leaguer. In 2017, he slashed .259/.310/.782, all three of those percentages seeing huge dropoffs after a sensational 2016 campaign a year prior. His power numbers stayed relatively consistent, but his run and hit totals plummeted as the O’s weren’t quite as a competitive as in years past.

Now, Machado is likely still cruising for a big contract regardless of what he does in 2018. He’s moving to shortstop, which will be interesting. But he’s young enough that even another season like last year won’t make too big a difference, considering how good he’s been throughout his career.

That’s who White Sox fans will be watching whenever their gaze falls on the Baltimore baseball club. (They won’t be alone, by the way, and some contending teams might even try to add him at the trade deadline.) But the O’s are making news for other reasons, recent reasons, in fact.

The biggest name left on the free-agent market finally signed this week, and now the Orioles have a big-time addition to their starting rotation. Unlike Jake Arrieta, it appears Alex Cobb’s waiting game paid off in the form of dollars, years and a no-trade clause. How nice for him. It’s also nice for the O’s, who get to add a guy to a low-key decent starting staff.

Cobb, who had a 3.66 ERA in 29 starts last season, might not be ready to rock for the start of the regular season considering he didn’t ink a deal until a week out from Opening Day — bet he’s good at staring contests, too — but the trio of Dylan Bundy, Andrew Cashner (another new addition) and Kevin Gausman will be ready, and all those guys are coming off a solid-enough 2017. Bundy had a couple good stretches, posting a 3.03 ERA over his first 13 starts and then a 2.00 ERA in the month of August. Gausman had a 3.31 ERA over his final 18 starts. Cashner, another free-agent signing, had a 3.40 ERA with the Texas Rangers.

So while the likes of Adam Jones, Chris Davis, Mark Trumbo and the better-than-Machado-last-year Jonathan Schoop still make the O’s an offensive threat in a hard-to-win AL East, the starting pitching might be where the magic is this time around.

2017 record: 75-87, fifth place in AL East

Offseason additions: Alex Cobb, Andrew Cashner, Colby Rasmus, Alex Presley, Pedro Araujo, Joely Rodriguez, Nestor Cortes Jr.

Offseason departures: Welington Castillo, J.J. Hardy, Ryan Flaherty, Seth Smith, Jeremy Hellickson, Ubaldo Jimenez, Wade Miley

X-factor: I said it just above, and I'll say it again: Jonathan Schoop was better than Manny Machado last season. Schoop made the All-Star team and finished with 32 homers, 105 RBIs and a .293/.338/.503 slash line. His .841 OPS was one of the best 50 in the game. Should we expect Schoop to be the best middle infielder on the O's in 2018, too? Maybe that's a little extreme, but hey, good to have this guy.

Projected lineup:

1. Tim Beckham, 3B
2. Jonathan Schoop, 2B
3. Manny Machado, SS
4. Adam Jones, CF
5. Chris Davis, 1B
6. Trey Mancini, DH
7. Colby Rasmus, RF
8. Caleb Joseph, C
9. Alex Presley, LF

Projected rotation:

1. Dylan Bundy
2. Andrew Cashner
3. Kevin Gausman
4. Chris Tillman
5. Mike Wright Jr.

Prediction: Third place in AL East, no playoffs

Catch up on the AL:

Oakland Athletics
Texas Rangers
Seattle Mariners
Los Angeles Angels
Houston Astros
Tampa Bay Rays
Toronto Blue Jays
Baltimore Orioles

Catch up on the NL:

San Diego Padres
Colorado Rockies
Arizona Diamondbacks
San Francisco Giants
Los Angeles Dodgers

Sounds like we know how the White Sox starting rotation will line up to start the season


Sounds like we know how the White Sox starting rotation will line up to start the season

Rick Renteria's starting rotation isn't exactly official for the start of the season, but it's about as close as it can be.

Maybe "unofficially official" is the best way to go?

The South Side skipper agreed with the assessment of reporters Wednesday in Arizona, saying that an order of James Shields, Lucas Giolito, Reynaldo Lopez, Miguel Gonzalez and Carson Fulmer "sounds right."

Shields was already announced as the White Sox starter for the season opener next Thursday in Kansas City. That wasn't much of a surprise considering Shields' veteran status in this rotation.

Giolito, who made seven starts at the end of last season and looked mighty good doing it, might be the best starting pitcher on the team going into the season. He posted a 2.38 ERA in those games, with many fans hoping he would have been the one to take on the Royals in the opener. It sounds like he'll likely pitch two days later in Game 2 against the Crowns.

Lopez made eight starts at the end of last season, turning in a 4.72 ERA in those starts. He's another former highly touted prospect who will get a full season to continue his development at the major league level.

Gonzalez was brought back this winter after being traded away from the South Side last summer to bring another veteran mentor type to help along these young pitchers. He had a 4.31 ERA before the trade to the Texas Rangers after a 3.73 ERA in a full season with the White Sox in 2016.

Fulmer is another young arm who will be looking to earn a spot in the crowded rotation of the future this season. He's had a rough spring — though turned in his best start of the spring earlier this week — but he'll be given every opportunity to prove he can succeed as a big league starting pitcher after showing some promise at the end of last season.

Those first three guys will face off against the Royals on the season's opening weekend. Gonzalez and Fulmer are expected to make their first starts of the season against the Toronto Blue Jays in Canada.