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Roob's 25 Random Points: Cory Undlin, Mike Golic and access to the zoo

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Roob's 25 Random Points: Cory Undlin, Mike Golic and access to the zoo

As the Eagles get ready for their first game in the Los Angeles area in 27 years, we look back at what was at stake the last time they played here. 

Also in today's 25 Random Points we ponder MAC cards, Cory Undlin, Eagles quarterbacks drafted by the Rams, the SEPTA regional rail station that doesn't exist at the Philadelphia Zoo, Mike Golic and a South Jersey band called Pine Barons.

And lots more!
 
1. Undlin deserves a big ol' boatload of credit for his ability to teach the Eagles' young cornerbacks and get them ready to play. We've spoken a lot about how far Jalen Mills has come and how comfortable rookie Rasul Douglas looks, but behind their development is a very tough, very involved and very detail-oriented position coach who gets the most out of what he has. Watching Undlin at training camp is always a trip. He is so engaged in what he's doing, and he's got this perfect combination of being a hard-ass and a tough, demanding coach. He's also funny as heck and able to keep his guys loose and having fun. And he spends so much time and energy on every guy on the roster. A special teamer like Chris Maragos, who had only played one snap on defense since opening day 2016, was forced to play the entire game at safety, but he was ready. Factor in a born leader like Malcolm Jenkins, a Pro Bowler with a Super Bowl ring, and Brian Dawkins, who's around the team a lot, this is a very healthy environment for young defensive backs. I can't wait to see what the future holds for this group.

2. Last time the Eagles played in L.A. was Week 3 of 1990 against the Rams at Anaheim Stadium. The Eagles were 0-2, and whispers — very loud whispers — were that owner Norman Braman was so fed up with head coach Buddy Ryan that he had made up his mind to fire Buddy if the Eagles lost to the Rams and fell to 0-3. But Randall Cunningham threw TD passes to Mike Quick and Calvin Williams, Mike Golic had an interception and a sack, Anthony Toney rushed for 103 yards, and the Eagles got out of town with a 27-21 win and saved Buddy's job. At least for a few months. Despite a third straight double-digit win season, Braman fired Buddy after a third straight playoff loss. "I've been fired for losing before," Buddy said that day. "I've never been fired for winning."

3. Golic, by the way, is the last Eagles defensive tackle with a sack and interception in the same game. 
  
4. Doug Pederson was technically correct Monday when he said his analytics guys told him that 4th-and-8 was a 33 percent play. Using the Pro Football Reference database, we can determine that teams have converted 32.4 percent of the time since 1994 (as far back as stats are available) on 4th-and-8. That's 103 conversions in 318 attempts. But that includes every 4th-and-8 in every situation: The last few seconds of a game, when defenses are playing a soft zone. Kneel downs. Fake punts. Plays when the opposing team has a 51-point lead, etc. So again using the PFR database, we can get extremely detailed information about situational 4th-and-8 plays. For instance, the Eagles went for it on 4th-and-8 with a seven-point lead. Teams with a lead are going to be defended a very specific way on 4th-and-8. Historically, teams with a lead of seven or more points convert on 4th-and-8 only 14.5 percent of the time (8 for 55). The last conversion came in 2010 when Browns punter Reggie Hodges — a former Eagle — ran 68 yards for a first down on a fake punt against the Saints. He was tackled by Malcolm Jenkins. What about historical 4th-and-8's when a team is up by a touchdown and outside the opposing 40-yard-line in the first half? Then it's a 0 percent play. So technically, Pederson was accurate when he said 4th-and-8 is a 33 percent play. But in that situation, it was anything but. That's the problem with analytics. They're great in theory — and sometimes certainly in practice. But there is no way to express all this information in the brief few seconds between plays. You might learn that 4th-and-8 is a 33 percent play. But what about in the specific situation the offense is in? I don't know how it's possible to express all that in such a limited time. Then you end up basing your decision on flawed data. And you don't really have the same odds to convert that you think.
 
5. Carson Wentz has hit only seven passes of 20 or more yards so far this year, tied for 18th-most in the league after three weeks. At this point last year, he had hit on nine — with inferior receivers. The Eagles won Sunday without a completion of 20 yards, the first time that's happened in eight years. I think there are a lot of factors that play into this — not having great chemistry yet with Alshon Jeffery and Torrey Smith, losing Jordan Matthews, uneven pass protection and just missing some open guys. There's been a lot of talk about Wentz missing on the deep ball, but the Eagles need to get the mid-range game going as well.
 
6. I've never liked Alex Smith as a quarterback. I even thought Big Red made a mistake cutting ties with Nick Foles and keeping Smith. But I may have to rethink that stance. Smith has opened the 2017 season by becoming just the second quarterback in NFL history to complete at least 75 percent of his passes (minimum of 20 attempts) in each of his first three games. The other was Tom Brady in 2007. Smith took a beating in the Eagles game and stood in the pocket and made all the throws he had to make. It's only three games, but Smith is completing 77 percent of his passes with seven touchdowns and no interceptions for the undefeated Chiefs. Heck, he's almost halfway to his entire 2016 total of 15 touchdowns. Smith is 33 years old and has won only two playoff games, but he's playing better than ever. Andy Reid is usually right about quarterbacks. Maybe he was right about Smith. 
 
7. The couple sitting next to me on the nearly six-hour flight from Philly to Los Angeles was very nice. They also brought nothing to do, nothing to read. So they sat there reading the vomit bag instructions for six hours. I mean, it's not a secret how long the flight is. Bring a book? A crossword puzzle? A magazine? Something?  
 
8. This one is crazy: There have been 19 players in Eagles history who've rushed for 2,000 or more yards, and 16 of them are players the Eagles drafted. That's incredible. The only exceptions are Herschel Walker, Timmy Brown and Ricky Watters. The last five to reach 2,000 yards were all Eagles draft picks — Shady, Brian Westbrook, Correll Buckhalter, Donovan McNabb and Duce Staley. And only two of those 19 backs were first-round picks — Clarence Peaks in 1957 and Keith Byars in 1986. Who'll be the next one to hit 2,000 yards? My money's on Wendell Smallwood. He can play.
 
9. How is there not a SEPTA regional rail station at the zoo? The tracks run literally 14 1/2 feet from the zoo. You can actually see the lions and tigers in Big Cat Falls in the back of the zoo as you ride the train out of 30th Street Station. It's a pain getting to the zoo and parking. A station with an elevated walkway and dedicated zoo entrance would make the zoo so much more accessible (and ease traffic on the Schuylkill as well). Heck, if that's unrealistic, make it a shuttle that runs a few times a day during peak season from 30th. The Zoo Train! Just seems ridiculous that you can actually see the animals from the train, you just can't get to them.
 
10. I didn't like the new National record. Found it boring, heavy-handed and lacking dynamics. Boring as heck. Then I saw them play the thing in its entirety at Union Transfer, and now I love it. Funny how that happens.
 
11. Man, Rick Pitino involved in a scandal?!?!?! That's just a flat-out stunner.
 
12. This just blows my mind: Wentz, just three weeks into his second season, already has the fifth-most wins in franchise history by a quarterback the Eagles drafted. The list looks like this: Donovan McNabb [92], Randall Cunningham [63], Sonny Jurgensen [17], Foles [15], Wentz [9], Pete Liske [7]. What's even crazier is that as many quarterbacks drafted by the Rams have at least 10 wins quarterbacking the Eagles as quarterbacks drafted by the Eagles: Ron Jaworski [69], Norm Van Brocklin [20], Bobby Thomason [18] and Roman Gabriel [12] were all Rams draft picks who won 10 or more games for the Eagles. Throw in Sam Bradford [7], and five of the 18 winningest QBs in Eagles history are Rams draft picks.

13. I still call it a MAC card.
 
14. With Nelson Agholor’s TD catch with 14 seconds left against the Chiefs and Jake Elliott’s game-winning field goal Sunday against the Giants, the Eagles have scored in the final 20 seconds of back-to-back games for the first time in 17 years. Last time it happened was in 2000, when David Akers made a game-tying field goal against the Cowboys with 11 seconds left in regulation at the Vet and a game-tying field goal as time expired a week later against the Steelers at Three Rivers Stadium. Akers won both games in overtime.
 
15. There's been a giant sign at the intersection of Byberry Road and Bustleton Pike for a month stating, "road closed local traffic only." This is kind of a big deal since Byberry is the only access to Woodhaven Road and ultimately I-95 from the Somerton section of Northeast Philly. But here's the thing. The road isn't closed. And it never was closed. And it probably never will be closed. And you can still get to Woodhaven Road off Byberry. There's not even a detour. The only thing that's closed is a tiny section of Byberry between the entrance to Woodhaven Road and Roosevelt Boulevard — near the old Nabisco plant. And you can still get to the Boulevard pretty easily just by hopping on Woodhaven and taking the first ramp. You might think the fake road closed sign might help with traffic but no. It still takes 46 minutes in the morning to get to Woodhaven.
 
16. Two weeks ago, I wrote here that I heard the worst song ever. I heard one that's worse. It's called "In the Name of Love" by Martin Garrix and Babe Rexha. And it really is worse.
 
17. Since Douglas began playing a couple weeks ago and performing at a high level, people have been looking for an Eagles cornerback to compare him too. I've heard Bobby Taylor, and yeah, they're both tall and rangy, but Douglas is way more physical than Taylor ever was and not as fast. Sheldon Brown? Yeah, they're both terrific tacklers and love to come up and support the run. But Brown was 5-foot-10. Douglas is 6-2. Troy Vincent? Troy was a tremendous cover corner who had size (6-1) and could run and also didn't mind mixing it up at the line of scrimmage. He's probably closest, but he's also a five-time Pro Bowler and Douglas has only played in two games, so it's a little premature to even go there. But as far as tall, physical corners with coverage skill, that does seem to be the best comparison. I really wonder if the Eagles would have made the trade with the Bills for Ronald Darby if they knew what they had in Douglas.
 
18. The interesting thing about Vincent — he didn't make a Pro Bowl until his eighth season. Clyde Simmons didn't make one until his sixth season, Jermane Mayberry and Jon Runyan both made it for the first time in their seventh season. Even Dawk didn't make one until his fourth year in the league. Why am I always preaching patience? This is why. Players get better. What you see as a rookie or even in a guy's second or third or even fourth year isn't necessarily the final product. That's why you don't cut Donnel Pumphrey after a few bad preseason games. Time is an amazing thing.
 
19. Let's just stop for a second and consider how underrated Jason Avant was. During his heyday with the Eagles, the six-year period from 2007 through 2012, Avant caught 83 passes on third down, and 68 of them went for first downs. That's 82 percent, and that's ridiculous. Think about it — over a six-year period, he only had 15 catches on third down where he didn't move the sticks.
 
20. Is it weird that when I'm in an office building or hotel room and I can see my car out the window a few flights down I like to make the hatchback go up and down?
 
21. I can't stand rotating offensive linemen. I just don't like it. Put the best guy in there and leave him in there. Stefen Wisniewski right now is the Eagles' best option at left guard. He outplayed Chance Warmack throughout the preseason, he should have been in there at halftime in Kansas City, and he should be in there the whole game Sunday against the Chargers. Period. There's a reason nobody rotates guards. 
 
22. Hey, this would be a good time to look at the Eagles' 2018 schedule. Their opponents at home, in addition to their three NFC East rivals, will be the Falcons, Panthers, Texans and Colts. On the road, they'll face the Jaguars, Saints, Buccaneers and Titans in addition to the NFC East opponents. They'll also play on the road against the NFC West team that finishes in the same spot in the standings and at home against the NFC North opponent that finishes in the corresponding spot in the standings.
 
23. I feel like people who whistle in public should be arrested, and I really don't think that's extreme.
 
24. Last weekend at World Café Live was the inaugural Philadelphia Music Festival, an ambitious non-profit endeavor that was the brainchild of Philly lawyer and music nut Greg Seltzer, who founded the festival to showcase the burgeoning Philly indie music scene. The two-day festival, which also featured local artwork and craft breweries and raised about $15,000 for local arts groups, featured 26 artists from Philadelphia and South Jersey performing all day Friday and Saturday on World Café's two stages. Something like this wouldn't have been possible five years ago. There weren't enough good bands and the scene hadn't developed yet to the point where people would support an event like this. But Philly has become the center of the pop music universe, and you could easily book another 26 quality bands next year without repeating one. That said, here's my top-10 from this year's festival (with the caveat that I missed Strand of Oaks): 1. Pine Barons, 2. Dominic Angelella, 3. Cheerleader, 4. Eric Slick, 5. Sports, 6. Harmony Woods, 7. Slomo Sapiens, 8. Slaughter Beach, Dog, 9. Kississippi, 10. Tiny Hueman.
 
25. And 10 Philly bands I'd like to see play next year's festival, which will be held the weekend of Sept. 28-29: The Obsessives, Weller, Sheer Mag, Pilkington, Hemming, Cherry, Restorations, the Whips, Thin Lips and Mercury Girls.

Eagles DBs coach Cory Undlin giving himself crash course on Ronald Darby

Eagles DBs coach Cory Undlin giving himself crash course on Ronald Darby

Eagles defensive backs coach Cory Undlin remembers studying Ronald Darby a couple years ago when the cornerback was coming out of Florida State. He remembers he liked him.

Since then, though, Darby was drafted by the Bills in the second round of 2015 and Undlin hadn't really thought about Darby very much.

Until last Friday.

"Well, Howie walked into my office and said 'Hey, man, Darby's going to be in your room tomorrow,'" Undlin said Saturday, a week and a day after the trade went down. "I said … 'I'll coach him up when he gets here.'"

Undlin said normally coaches don't really study other NFL players until those players are going to be free agents. Then, they study them like college prospects to see if they'll fit their scheme. Darby wasn't set to become a free agent for two more years.

There wasn't really any reason for Undlin to follow Darby's career.

"I had no idea," Undlin said. "I knew he was a good player. I knew he had a great rookie year, didn't really look at him or follow him much last year."

Since the trade went through, Undlin gave himself a little crash course, watching some of Darby's NFL tape.

What did he come away with?

"It was good," he said. "It was good."

Two days after the trade, Darby partook in his first practice with the Eagles. Six days after the trade, he played in his first game.

Darby played 14 snaps against the Bills on Thursday night and had a pretty good debut. He picked off one pass and should have had another. He showed off his cover ability and his break to the football.

Of course, his coach was quick to point out that it wasn't a perfect debut. Darby missed a tackle against LeSean McCoy on the very first play of the game. There were some technique issues that need to be sorted out. And Undlin said Darby's conditioning isn't where it needs to be yet — he said Darby got "gassed" in his 14 plays.

And then there was the missed interception.

"Would have also liked to see him snatch that first ball when he stepped in front of their sideline," Undlin said. "He should have made that one. You don't get many of those opportunities so I would have loved to see him make that play right in front of their bench. That would have been nice."

If some of those things sound nitpicky, well, they are. For a guy who was on a different team less than a week before the game, Darby had a damn good debut. Undlin knows that and he can already see how talented his new corner is.

Darby is talented enough that Jim Schwartz wasted no time tossing him in with the starting defense on his first day.

We know Darby will definitely be a starter and based on the first preseason game and practices, it looks like he'll be the starter on the left side of the defense. That’s where he's been the first two years of his career. But during this training camp in Buffalo, the Bills worked him on the right side and the Eagles will use him on both sides.

That leaves the possibility that he might travel to line up against other teams' best receivers in 2017.

"That'll come down the road when we play somebody where we feel like we have to do that," Undlin said. "Right now, we're not ready to make that decision. Too early for that."

Undlin is still learning about his new top cornerback. We're not even two weeks removed from the trade.

DBs coach Cory Undlin breaks down Eagles' cornerbacks

DBs coach Cory Undlin breaks down Eagles' cornerbacks

Eagles defensive backs coach Cory Undlin spoke recently about the state of the team’s cornerback position (see story).

Here are Undlin’s remarks on several of the key figures in that cornerback group:  

On Rasul Douglas
“I’ve liked him the whole time, from the combine. Spent a bunch of time with him at West Virginia. Had him on a top-30 (visit). Fortunate to get him there. Like his length, like his change of direction, like his mindset. The guy loves ball. Guy comes in every single day with the mindset to get better. He loves ball. He wants to talk ball all the time. He loves watching tape. I like where he’s going. You guys have seen him in person, he’s a big man. So the technique part of that is what we’re consistently going to have to work on. It’s hard to play that position out there and be efficient and create hard angles when you’re tall. You’ve got to be able to bend, you’ve got to stay down, you’ve got to be able to be efficient with your upper body, not just your lower body. He’s gotten a little bit better since he’s been here. He’s a good player. We’ve got to fine-tune all that stuff, but he’s gotten better since he’s been here.”

On Sidney Jones
"There's a lot that stood out on his tape. Competitiveness, effort, change of direction, ball skills, he can find it down the field, which is obviously imperative for us. I like everything about him. The guy's a good player. Great control of his body, violent in and out of his breaks, guy plays with his hair on fire. He checks off all the boxes. Smart kid, asks a lot of questions, which is exactly what I expected him to do. The difference in my mind between good corners and the ones that are not just good but like really good — great — are the ones that when the wide receiver stops, they stop. And when the wideout goes down and gets out, the corner, with a little bit of awareness and anticipation, can hopefully go down and hopefully match that angle and not have circles and all that other stuff. His ability to drop his body and get his feet in the ground and come out with violence and efficiency, it's special."

On Jalen Mills
"He’s got a year under his belt, which is obviously huge. He’s been in games, he’s been in big games, he’s played good in some games, he’s played bad in some games. So the biggest thing would be whatever happens, wherever he plays, whatever his role will be this year, that there’s a lot more good play than there is good and bad. He was a rookie last year, I’m proud of him for what he did, (but) he’s got to play at a more consistent level and he’d be the first guy to say that. He’s got a ways to go, like we all do, whether it’s him or anyone else in that room, we’ve got a ways to go before we play that first game."

On C.J. Smith
“Both of them (Smith and Mills) are trending upward. Both getting better. They’ve both done a good job. Obviously, Jalen played a lot more than C.J., but C.J,’s doing a nice job as well. Once you’ve been here for a year, just the daily exercise of showing up every single day with the mindset to get better, once you have that, you know now you’re not a rookie in that sense anymore, so they’re different players in that way. I’m glad they’re both here."

On Patrick Robinson
“Patrick’s been, obviously I’ve never been around Patrick, and it goes down just like this. In the meeting room or on the field during individual drills, we’re doing a drill, and as Patrick goes through and I coach him, then the next guy goes through and I coach him and the next guy goes through and then I turn around and Pat’s over them coaching him. In the meeting room, showing a play on tape, going through the discussion, and then Pat says, hey I have a question about this, and I say, hey, you explain it how you see it. So he’s been great. I’ve really enjoyed him in the room and he’ll make us all better. The guy knows ball, he’s played a lot … he gets the game. For players to hear it from me all day long, bang, bang, bang, but for them to hear it from other players, that’s big. He’s doing a good job. On the ground a few times early on, just in Phase 2 and early in OTAs, but you saw him get better. Changed a few things with technique but there wasn’t a lot to change on him, but I like his quickness, the guy can run, he’s smart. There’s just certain things you don’t teach, that you don’t coach. He just sees it. He can see the formation, the splits, the alignments, who’s on, whig’s off, he gets the game. So that’s obviously a bonus."

On Eric Rowe
"He got traded. That's it. I think it was they were thinking about trading a guy and they traded him. You know how this thing goes. Somebody needs a guy, the conversation starts, you weigh your options and you hope it works out. Traded him."