Flyers' Robert Hagg on demoted Samuel Morin: 'He's going to be up here somehow'

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Flyers' Robert Hagg on demoted Samuel Morin: 'He's going to be up here somehow'

VOORHEES, N.J. — Robert Hagg now has a room all to himself following the demotion of Samuel Morin.

The two rookie defensemen roomed together throughout the Flyers' nine-day road trip and Hagg probably got to know Morin’s innermost thoughts and feelings more than anyone.

“I didn’t talk to him [Wednesday],” Hagg said Thursday. “Of course I felt for him. We’ve been teammates for two years now. We’ve known each other for at least four. Of course, I’m feeling for him. There’s not much I can do. I’m just playing my game, but I know he’s going to be up here somehow.” 

As expected, the Flyers made the decision Wednesday afternoon to reassign Morin to the Lehigh Valley Phantoms, where he will begin his third year of professional hockey (see story). Morin, along with fellow defenseman Brandon Manning, was a healthy scratch over the final three games of the season-opening four-game road trip. Eight healthy defensemen was simply one too many for the Flyers moving forward.

“It’s tough to go with a group of eight and really get any rhythm and start to define roles — have players feeling comfortable and confident in those roles,” head coach Dave Hakstol said. “When there’s two guys not playing, that’s a little more difficult. When there’s one guy, that’s competition. This is a good group of seven that we can grow with.”  

The battle for the two roster spots on the blue line, involving Hagg, Morin and Travis Sanheim, was one of the most highly-contested competitions throughout training camp and the preseason. While Hakstol reaffirmed his defensive pairings were “all about a mix, a mix of different abilities,” he’ll be keeping close tabs on Morin down in the AHL. 

“There were some specific things that we’re going to ask him to go back and really concentrate at working on and improving,” Hakstol said. “He’s got to do his part to show us he’s the most ready to come in and help us when called upon. When that is, I can’t answer that for you.”

While Morin firmly believed he performed well enough to earn a place in the lineup, he never let it affect his relationship with his roommate.

“Sam is happy for me,” Hagg said. “Every time we were in the room, he said, 'You played really good. Keep doing that,’ or, ‘Good luck tonight. Keep playing like you did.’

“If you’re getting pissed off at each other, it’s not going to help you. I can tell you that. Of course, everyone wants to play, and it’s not up to us. The only thing we can do is perform as good as we can, and then it’s up to the coaches and the staff to decide who’s going to play or not.”

Hagg knows it’s not a bad idea to stay on Morin’s good side. The Phantoms' opponents won’t have that luxury.

Anthony Stolarz out indefinitely after surgery to repair torn meniscus in left knee

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Anthony Stolarz out indefinitely after surgery to repair torn meniscus in left knee

Anthony Stolarz's big season took a big blow Thursday.

The Flyers' goalie prospect underwent surgery to repair a meniscus tear in his left knee and will be out indefinitely. He tore his MCL at the end of last season, as well.

Stolarz, 23, was expected to start this season at AHL affiliate Lehigh Valley and battle fellow goalie prospect Alex Lyon for playing time. When Stolarz returns — recoveries from such a surgery can vary — he'll have to make up for lost time in another contract year.

A restricted free agent this offseason, Stolarz re-signed on a one-year deal in July. He is set to become an RFA again after the 2017-18 season, along with the 24-year-old Lyon.

Stolarz was selected by the Flyers in the second round of the 2012 draft. He's currently in a crowded group of goalie prospects, including Lyon, Carter Hart and Felix Sandstrom.

Lyon was about to enter training camp in a neck-and-neck race with Stolarz. Hart, 19 years old, has another year of junior hockey, while Sandstrom, 20, is in the SHL, but both could be the favorites as the Flyers' goalies of the future.

As for Stolarz, after posting a 2.60 goals-against average and .916 save percentage in 2015-16 with the Phantoms, he saw his GAA rise to 2.92 last season and save percentage dip to .911. He made his NHL debut last November and went 2-1-1 with a 2.07 goals-against average over seven games (four starts) with the Flyers.

The injury to Stolarz explains Lehigh Valley's signing of 26-year-old goalie Leland Irving last week. The Phantoms also signed 31-year-old goalie Mark Dekanich on Friday.

What the injury means significantly is that Lyon will see major opportunity in net for Lehigh Valley, a golden chance to impress the big club for the future and prove his worth as the primary call-up option this season should an injury arise among the Flyers' goalie tandem of Michal Neuvirth and Brian Elliott.

End to End: Alex Lyon or Anthony Stolarz, which goalie gets called to Flyers first?

End to End: Alex Lyon or Anthony Stolarz, which goalie gets called to Flyers first?

Throughout the offseason, we’ll ask questions about the Flyers to our resident hockey analysts and see what they have to say.

Going End to End today are reporters John Boruk, Tom Dougherty, Jordan Hall and Greg Paone.

The topic: Between goalie prospects Alex Lyon and Anthony Stolarz, who gets the first call to the Flyers?

Unlike our recent round-robin discussion surrounding Travis Sanheim and Phil Myers, I think this one is a little more clear-cut. Stolarz proved last season he can be a competent backup capable of making the occasional spot start. Perhaps more than anything, his play in net was deserving of a few more starts after contributing to the Flyers' 10-game win streak, highlighted by his shutout over the Red Wings at Joe Louis Arena in December.

Unquestionably, Stolarz is also the more coveted prospect of the two goaltenders. He was the third netminder selected in the 2012 draft and general manager Ron Hextall felt the need to protect Stolarz in the expansion draft, regardless of whether Vegas had more established goalies to choose from. I remember seeing Stolarz play an exhibition game a few years ago with the Flyers when his mobility was lacking, and I wasn’t quite sure he was athletic enough for a player of his size. Now it’s pretty obvious he has refined his game and his positioning in the five years since he was drafted.

On the other hand, Lyon signed with the Flyers as an undrafted free agent following a superb career at Yale University, and after speaking with him back in April, you quickly realize he’s also the smartest guy in the room ... in a good way. Lyon clearly gets it. He understands his place within the organization and admitted how impressed he was watching prospect Carter Hart, who came to Lehigh Valley for a brief stint at the end of this past season.

What makes this interesting for 2017-18 is, first, when will the Flyers need to make a minor-league call-up? And second, which of these two goalies will bounce back the quickest after suffering season-ending injuries? Stolarz tore the MCL in his knee, which required surgery, while Lyon also injured his leg, although not as seriously. If healthy, Stolarz will start the AHL season as the Phantoms' top goalie and it will be interesting to see how the workload will be split between the two netminders, but as of right now, Stolarz is next in line behind Brian Elliott and Michal Neuvirth.

Lyon vs. Stolarz will be a competition to keep tabs on all season. The winner gets another contract and potentially a shot at an NHL backup job in 2018-19 (read more about why here). Both signed one-year contracts July 15. It’s clear Hextall is pitting the two against each other one final time. He wants to see which one comes out on top. I’m betting on Lyon.

I don’t get the sense the Flyers are all that high on Stolarz. I’m not either. Hextall’s reluctance to even consider Stolarz as a backup this season is a telling sign. He’s repeatedly said this summer that if he had a Marty Brodeur type of a goalie, he would have considered Stolarz. Instead, they have Neuvirth, whose injury history is too rich to not have an NHL veteran as his goaltending partner, and Elliott, whom they signed July 1.

So it will be another season, his fourth, in the AHL for Stolarz, who turns 24 in January. Last season, Stolarz performed well in an extremely small sample size with the Flyers, but it wasn’t enough to change the minds of management. They don’t believe he’s ready. He played last season because of injury to others. It’s a safe bet those circumstances arise again.

Either Lyon or Stolarz will see some NHL action this season. Until Neuvirth proves he can stay healthy, we can’t count on him actually staying healthy. Stolarz’s AHL numbers haven’t screamed future No. 1 goalie. He’s not that. I don’t believe the Flyers see him as that, either. He’s an NHL backup with a 1-B ceiling.

That is not saying that I believe Lyon will be a No. 1 goalie, or that the Flyers believe this, either. Lyon’s overall numbers weren’t great in his first professional season, but they weren’t bad, either. I envision him improving this season and outshining Stolarz, who, quite frankly, had a mediocre campaign with the Phantoms last season. When Stolarz returned from the NHL in January, his numbers the rest of the way were not handsome.

Lyon finished his first pro season with a 2.74 goals-against average and .912 save percentage in 47 games at Lehigh Valley. Both figures aren’t that much off from Stolarz’s best season — 2.60 GAA and .916 save percentage in 2015-16 — and better than two of the three years Stolarz has played in the AHL. I think there is more potential with Lyon.

I’m higher on Lyon than I am Stolarz. The truth is neither guy is the goalie the Flyers are banking on being their franchise goalie. But in the Lyon-Stolarz debate, I’m taking Lyon.

As Hextall started building more and more organizational goalie depth, more and more luster was lost on Stolarz as the Flyers' goalie of the future.

The organization hasn't soured on him, but I don't think he's viewed as the franchise fit in net, especially with Hart and Felix Sandstrom waiting in the wings. And given the two-year contracts to Neuvirth and Elliott, Stolarz may never get a true shot at the No. 1 job or significant playing time with the big club — but his play can change that.

It's going to be a job audition all season at Lehigh Valley. Hextall is a huge proponent of competition, and he has it in place between the pipes with the Flyers' AHL affiliate.

I wouldn't count out Lyon here. This is a true battle with the Phantoms for not only playing time, but also for the chance to be summoned to the Flyers when needed. If Lyon outperforms Stolarz, the Flyers won't shy away from promoting the deserving candidate over the one who simply seems next in line. 

When talking about Stolarz after the Flyers signed Elliott earlier this month, Hextall made it a point to say don't forget about Lyon. The Yale product is 24 years old and pretty polished. The 23-year-old Stolarz went into the offseason with a knee injury, is entering his fourth season at the AHL level and saw his goals-against average spike from 2.60 in 2015-16 to 2.92 last season. 

Maybe the organization's patience is running thin on the 2012 second-round pick. Or maybe his opportunity just hasn't come yet. But Lyon is right there with him and I think he'll get the call, unless Stolarz shows a major jump in improvement.

I know what you may be thinking — it's July and the Flyers have their two goaltenders set for the upcoming season in Neuvirth and Elliott. So why on earth are we discussing the Phantoms' goalies?

I know what you're definitely thinking — it's Philadelphia, so it's always about the Flyers' goalies.

And the Stolarz-Lyon question is very much relevant for the coming months and later into the future. But let's focus on the coming months.

Neuvirth's historic litany of injury issues and missing extended periods of time is what makes this so relevant. Just ask Stolarz, who has gotten the call from Hextall multiple times over the last few seasons with Neuvirth's standard sittings on the injured shelf.

For whatever reason, the organization seems to have some sort of hesitation about the 23-year-old "Stolie." Yes, he was protected from Vegas in the expansion draft last month, but there still wasn't the trust in him to be the full-time backup to Neuvirth, hence the offseason signing of Elliott. And that was after a 2.07 goals-against average, .928 save percentage and that shutout in Detroit that John referenced above. But flash back to when Neuvirth was out of the lineup last November to January. Steve Mason still started 20 of the Flyers' 22 games in that stretch, even with Stolarz putting up the donut against the Wings. Why not give Stolarz more of a shot then? That could be the most telling sign.

While Lyon hasn't gotten his crack at the NHL yet, the Flyers have shown they like him. When he signed out of Yale at the end of 2015-16, the Flyers wanted him badly enough that they gave him a two-year deal when many others were only willing to give one year. When asked about the organization's young goalies during a conference call about the Elliott signing, Hextall went out of his way to praise Lyon. "The guy we all forget about is Alex Lyon. He's done a pretty good job down there, too," Hextall said at the time.

This could go either way. Calling up Stolarz first makes sense considering his NHL-level experience. But the gut feeling here is that now with a year of pro experience within the organization under his belt, Lyon, if healthy, gets the first call from the Flyers.