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Nick Foles vs. Carson Wentz is closer than you think

Nick Foles vs. Carson Wentz is closer than you think

One of the sad byproducts of the Eagles' Super Bowl triumph has been the move lately to bring Nick Foles down, to discredit him for his achievements, all in the name of Carson Wentz.

It seems a segment of Eagles fans out there — not all, not even most but enough that it's disturbing — believe Foles' postseason success was some lucky bounce of the football, just a bunch of fortunate throws that just happened to somehow settle into the waiting arms of Alshon Jeffery, Zach Ertz and Torrey Smith in the end zone.

Here's my favorite tweet from the past 24 hours: "To say someone can't accidentally have a great postseason is a farce, as (Joe) Flacco and Doug Williams have."

Another: "Wentz is so much better than Foles it's not even a conversation. It's not even close."

You can find dozens more on my Twitter timeline, and I find it just really, really sad that there are some Eagles fans out there who can't just enjoy the franchise's first Super Bowl championship without taking sides in some pointless Wentz vs. Foles debate.

The Eagles have two elite quarterbacks.

This is beyond question.

One I believe will be a star in this league for the next decade.

One just won the Super Bowl MVP.

It doesn't have to be one or the other. It doesn't have to be Nick vs. Carson. They're both great people, tremendous teammates, fierce competitors.

But for those who still refuse to give Foles credit for what he achieved, consider this:

Foles is 20-10 as a starter with the Eagles (.667), with a 62.4 percent completion percentage, 59 touchdowns, 20 interceptions, 7.5 yards per completion and a 95.2 passer rating.

Wentz is 18-11 as a starter with the Eagles (.621), with a 61.5 percent completion percentage, 49 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, 6.8 yards per completion and an 88.8 passer rating.

Foles is 6-4 against playoff teams, Wentz is 5-6. Foles has a 91.6 passer rating on third down, Wentz has a 92.1. Foles has completed 27 passes of 40 yards or more, Wentz has completed 15.

Foles has started 30 games, Wentz has started 29. Foles has thrown 86 more passes, thrown for 1,400 more yards, 10 more touchdowns, one less interception.

It's fascinating how similar their Eagles tenures have been. If anything, Foles has a slight statistical edge.

I think where people get confused is the old "eye test." Wentz looks like a superstar. He's a first-round pick. He's incredibly athletic and has certain skills Foles doesn't have. Foles was a third-round pick, he's bounced around the league a little, he's been a backup.

But as Eagles quarterbacks? There's enough of a body of work — roughly two seasons of starts for each — that their production simply can't be labeled an accident or a fluke or happenstance.

Now, what should the Eagles do at quarterback is a different question.

Wentz just turned 25, Foles just turned 29. When you're building a roster, you're going to go with the young guy with a world of upside.

What happens to Foles? I would guess he stays for another year, since there are still so many unknowns with Wentz's health and his readiness for opening day. Then he can hit free agency after the 2018 season and move on.

When all is said and done, Wentz may have five Super Bowl MVPs. But right now all we have is what we have, and that's the most promising young quarterback in the NFL and another guy who just turned in one of the greatest postseasons by any quarterback in NFL history.

We went so long in this city without elite quarterback play. Think about the last 50 years.

Really, other than maybe Roman Gabriel in 1973, Jaws from 1979 through 1981, Randall from 1988 through 1992, and Donovan from, say, 2000 through 2008, we haven't had it at all, other than brief blips from Michael Vick, Jeff Garcia and Foles in 2013.

Now the Eagles have two quarterbacks who everybody in the city can be proud of and can believe in.

This is a time to celebrate. A time to enjoy the afterglow of one of the greatest runs in franchise history. A time to revel in what the Eagles accomplished for once instead of what they're lacking.

Roob's Random Points, Part 1: Wentz's historic start, incredible run defense, Philadelphia A's

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Roob's Random Points, Part 1: Wentz's historic start, incredible run defense, Philadelphia A's

A little Mack Hollins, a little Robbie Robertson, a little Philadelphia Athletics, a little Donnie Jones and a little crosswalk etiquette.

Put it together and you're on your way to Part 1 of this week's 25 Random Points!

Here are the first 12½ random points ... 12½ more coming soon!

1. Carson Wentz isn't just having one of the best seasons of any quarterback this year. He's having one of the best seasons a quarterback has ever had. He's on pace for 39 touchdowns and nine interceptions. The only QBs who've ever had 39 TDs and single-digit interceptions in a season are Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. This is historic stuff!

2. Crazy that there's a former Eagles running back who went to Pitt who's having a terrific year for an AFC East team, but it isn't LeSean McCoy. Shady is averaging just 3.4 yards per carry for the Bills, but Dion Lewis — who replaced Shady at Pitt and was drafted by the Eagles in the fifth round in 2011 — is averaging 5.3 yards per carry for the Patriots.  

3. Most of the run defense numbers the Eagles are putting up are insane, but the one that amazes me the most is that opposing teams have run the ball only 123 times all year against the Eagles. That's 17.6 attempts per game, and that's the second-lowest figure ever against any NFL team through seven games! The only lower figure was against the 1991 Saints (119 carries through seven games). The Eagles have been so dominating against the run, opposing teams aren't even trying to run the football! And Kareem Hunt remains the only opposing running back to reach even 40 yards against the Eagles this year. That's crazy! 

4. I'm going to say it right now: Eagles-Rams at the L.A. Memorial Coliseum on Dec. 10 will be for No. 1 seed in the NFC. And I ain't picking against the Eagles!

5. Interesting that the Eagles are playing the Redskins and 49ers back-to-back. When that happened in 1989, it produced two of the greatest fourth-quarter finishes in NFL history. In the first game, the Eagles trailed the Redskins, 30-14, at halftime at RFK Stadium, then outscored the Redskins, 28-7, in the second half to win, 42-37. A week later at the Vet, the Eagles led the 49ers, 21-10, early in the fourth quarter before Joe Montana threw four touchdown passes in the final 13½ minutes to give the Niners a 38-28 win. Two of the most historic comebacks the Eagles were ever involved in, and they happened seven days apart! 

6. Speaking of those two games, the Eagles are the only team in NFL history to be involved in consecutive games in which the home team led by eight or more points going into the fourth quarter, then allowed 21 or more fourth-quarter points and lost. In fact, after being involved in two such games in eight days, they've been in only two more in the last 28 years — a 40-26 win over the 49ers at Candlestick in 2008 after trailing, 26-17, after the third quarter, and the 38-31 win over the Giants at MetLife Stadium in 2010 after trailing, 24-10, going into the fourth quarter — the DeSean punt return game!

7. I feel like it's only a matter of time before Mack Hollins is getting more targets than Torrey Smith.

8. One of my favorite stats ever was courtesy of baseball stats guru Jayson Stark: Before Wednesday night, there had been 17 extra-inning home runs in the 115-year history of the World Series. Then there were five in 42 minutes.

9. I find it absurd that the Athletics have won more championships than any major professional sports team in Philadelphia history.

10. If you are crossing the street or walking across a parking lot or crossing anywhere I’m driving, I will always stop and let you go by. Every single time. But you better show some hustle! Even if it's just a courtesy jog, you gotta give me something!

11. I find this fascinating: Three of the Band's most beloved songs are The Weight, I Shall Be Released and It Makes no Difference, and each was sung by a different band member — and none were sung by Robbie Robertson! Richard Manuel sang I Shall Be Released, Rick Danko sang It Makes no Difference, and Levon Helm sang The Weight (except the fourth verse, sung by Danko). A truly unique band.

12. Donnie Jones is so underrated.

12½. It blows my mind that four of the seven QBs in NFL history with four touchdown passes and 60 rushing yards in a game were Eagles, yet none of them were Donovan McNabb! On Monday night, Wentz joined Michael Vick, Randall Cunningham and Bobby Hoying in that elite group, along with Rodgers, Cam Newton and Robert Griffin III. Bobby Hoying? Really???

Michael Vick to join Fox as NFL studio analyst

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Michael Vick to join Fox as NFL studio analyst

Michael Vick, like Tony Romo, spent last season clinging to his NFL career. And like Romo, Vick is now set to enter the broadcast world.

Vick will be a studio analyst for NFL Kickoff, Fox's morning show which leads into its noon program, Fox NFL Sunday.

Additionally, Vick will appear regularly on FS1's studio shows.

"I'm very excited," Vick told USA TODAY Sports. "Over the last seven or eight months, I've done a lot of interviews, and I think I've gotten better as I've been put in those situations more often. Things really came together (with Fox) over the last couple months."

Vick "has an incredibly bright future as an analyst," Fox Sports president of production and executive producer John Entz told USA Today. "He has stayed close to the game and has many relationships with today's current coaches and players. We feel he can bring a truly unique perspective that intrigues and engages our viewers.” 

Vick played in 143 games over a 13-year career, including 54 with the Eagles from 2009-13. He finished his career with a record of 61-51-1, 22,464 passing yards, 133 passing TDs, 88 interceptions, 6,109 rushing yards and 36 rushing TDs.

He was involved in some controversy earlier this summer when he suggested on FS1 that free-agent quarterback Colin Kaepernick should cut his hair.