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Is the draft talent pool deep enough for the Redskins to trade back?

Is the draft talent pool deep enough for the Redskins to trade back?

When is a first-round pick really a second-round pick? That is a question the Redskins may have to ponder when they consider trade down options when the draft gets underway 13 days from today. 

As are many teams, the Redskins are open to the idea of moving back in the NFL draft to pick up some extra picks. However, they should be careful about just how far back they trade. 

Albert Breer of the MMQB had an item in one of his articles where he quoted a team executive saying, “The problem is that the 22nd pick might as well be in the third round.” That was an exaggeration, said Breer, but the consensus is that “the difference between [picks] 22 and 52 is minimal.” 


As evidence, Breer cites the trade between the Jets and Colts with New York sending three second-round picks to Indianapolis to move up from No. 6 overall to No. 3. If the second round had its usual quality this year, it probably would have taken just two seconds to move up three spots. But with the picks devalued by the lack of quality, the Jets had to put in all three of their second rounders. 

Assuming that this is true, the Redskins are safe where they are at No. 13. They should be able to get a quality player there and from that point is a matter of proper development and maximizing the player’s talent. 

And if they are able to make a simple swap to regain the third-round pick they traded away in the Alex Smith deal, they still should be safe. Per the draft trade value chart, which is somewhat outdated but still a good guideline, the Redskins would have to move back four spots to pick No. 17 to get a fourth. 

However, a simple swap is not always available. The Redskins may need to go back further in order to collect additional picks if that’s the deal that’s offered to them. And they may be cautious of moving into the twenties to make a deal. If the offer on the table is from a team further back in the first round, perhaps offering a late second-round pick to move back, the Redskins would then be moving into an area where the talent level may have declined significantly from their original pick. 


What you have to consider when analyzing all of this is that the general consensus is not necessarily the Redskins’ view. Their evaluation could say that quality players will last through the first round. Or they may have only, say, 15 players with first-round grades on their board with a sharp drop after that. 

To further jumble the picture, the Redskins may see a drop in talent level later in the first round and make a deal to add picks anyway. At the Senior Bowl, Doug Williams said, “I’ve always said the draft is kind of like a crapshoot sometimes.” That would indicate a belief that adding more picks will increase the chances of having a good draft simply because you have more rolls of the dice. 

This is where the draft trade chart can get thrown out. In other words, if the Redskins trade back and the trade works out on the chart they may have been fleeced. If it looks like they got a good haul, perhaps they just got equal value. 

Stay up to date on the Redskins. Rich Tandler covers the team 365 days a year. Like his Facebook page follow him on Twitter @TandlerNBCS.


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Get ready for the NFL Draft, and get ready for plenty of surprises

Get ready for the NFL Draft, and get ready for plenty of surprises

In some circles of modern culture, producing shocking commentary or content seems like the top goal. Being shocking gets clicks, gets attention, and in turn, gets dollars. 

On NFL Draft night, nothing should be shocking. Remember, last season there was no way Jonathan Allen would fall to the Redskins at 17. There was no way Kansas City would trade up for QB Patrick Maholmes. There was no way Chicago would trade up for Mitchell Trubisky. But all those things happened.

Sure, for months draft experts have expounded about what will happen, but the truth is, once the Browns are on the clock, nobody actually knows anything. 

With that in mind, let's look at a bunch of options that should not shock Redskins fans. 

  • Don't be shocked if Washington takes Minkah Fitzpatrick. They want him.
  • Don't be shocked if the Redskins draft Da'Ron Payne over Vita Vea. Washington loves Payne's potential to be a disruptor in the pass game and his incredible strength. 
  • Then again, don't be shocked if the 'Skins take Vita. Plenty of folks like him too. 
  • Don't be shocked if a team makes a move for Louisville QB Lamar Jackson. That could happen after the Redskins pick at 13, but Washington's pick could also prove important in the race for the former Heisman Trophy winner.
  • Derwin James will be on the 'Skins list, but don't be shocked if he goes off the board before the Redskins pick. 
  • Don't be shocked with a trade back, but remember that isn't the goal. With four QBs expected in the Top 10, an elite talent should make it to Washington at 13. If that happens, the Redskins should take advantage of adding a blue chip to their squad. 
  • Don't be shocked if Virginia Tech LB Tremaine Edmunds ends up wearing the Redskins draft hat. Also, don't be shocked if he plays some outside linebacker in the Washington 3-4 scheme, not just the inside LB role most project for Edmunds. 
  • Don't be shocked if a seemingly sure thing slips all the way to 13. Perhaps that's Quenton Nelson? Or Denzel Ward? Remember, there was no way Jon Allen was supposed to fall to 17 last year.

There are some things Redskins fans should be shocked by. 

  • Washington should not trade up. 
  • Washington should not draft a running back at 13 unless Saquon Barley is available. He won't be.
  • Washington should not draft a wide receiver at 13. 
  • If one of the top four QBs is available at 13, Washington should vigorously work the phones to move the pick. Move down a few spots and get Payne should be the exact plan in that scenario. Arizona at 15 needs a QB. 


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2018 NFL Draft Predictions: Where will the Edmunds brothers go?

2018 NFL Draft Predictions: Where will the Edmunds brothers go?

NBC Sports Washington’s four-part digital series ‘E-Boyz’ -- chronicling the illustrious past, decorated present and bright future of the Edmunds family -- is NOW LIVE. Check out a new episode daily, leading up to the 2018 NFL Draft. Watch the fourth episode above and more here.

After this weekend's NFL Draft, the Edmunds family will go from having one son in the league to three. 

Trey is already on the Saints, but Tremaine and Terrell aren't pros just yet. So, when will they be taken? Here's a collection of predictions from NBC Sports Washington's NFL crew regarding the middle and youngest Edmunds brothers.


JP Finlay: The Niners at nine. John Lynch won't be able to get past Edmunds' combination of size and speed, and the elite potential of the just 19-year-old. Remember, too, San Francisco might not have Reuben Foster this fall.

Rich Tandler:  Tenth to the Bears. Physically, he is a double for Brian Urlacher and he worked out well enough for the Bears that he is headed for the Hall of Fame this year.

Mitch Tischler: No. 9 to the San Francisco 49ers.  We all know Kyle Shannahan loves him some offensive threats but getting an edge rusher that could tally double digit sacks and play both inside and out is going to be too tough to pass up at nine.

Pete Hailey: No. 10 and the Raiders. Jon Gruden won't let the dynamic Edmunds fall any further.


JP Finlay: Kansas City in Round 3. They could use additional depth in the secondary and that franchise knows value when they see it.

Mitch Tischler: The Steelers in Round 3. He fits their scheme, has an nfl body and measured very well at the Combine.

Pete Hailey: Round 3 to the Cardinals. Terrell can learn from Antoine Bethea then fill in for him once Bethea moves on.