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Need to Know: Where should Redskins' quarterback RG3 be ranked?

Need to Know: Where should Redskins' quarterback RG3 be ranked?

Here is what you need to know on this Thursday, July 9, 21 days before the Washington Redskins start training camp.

Griffin No. 31?

There has been plenty of talk about an SI.com article in which Robert Griffin III was ranked at No. 31 on the list of starting NFL QB’s. And that, of course was one of the reasons the article was written, to generate talk. There has to be a conversation starter in there and saying that Griffin is better than only Matt Cassel of the Bills certainly accomplishes that.

Although I respect Andy Benoit, who did the rankings in the post, I just can’t buy the notion that Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston, who haven’t taken an NFL snap, will have better seasons than Griffin will. I think that if you told 32 NFL coaches that they had their choice of starting Griffin or starting Geno Smith or Josh McCown I think the vast majority would take Griffin. I’m not sure that Blake Bortles will have a better 2015 season than Griffin will. For that matter, I’m not sure that Sam Bradford, who has piled up much more time on the injured list than Griffin, should be above him in the rankings. Heck, let’s put him in front of Jay Culter, who Benoit says is fine except for “mistakes and leadership” problems. Oh. I tend to think those are pretty big issues for a quarterback.

So where should Griffin rank? Let’s give Griffin all of the benefit of the doubt against all of the quarterbacks above. That means putting eight quarterbacks occupying in slots 25-32 in some order. So that means that Griffin is the 24th-best quarterback in the league.

Go team.

My deep analysis of that is that 24th out of 32 is still not very good. It’s just outside of the bottom fourth in the league. It’s third in the division and 14th in the NFC. The Redskins will play 16 games and they will have the better quarterback on the field in four of them.

It should be said that it’s possible that Griffin will improve this season. July predictions about his regular season performance have been wrong all three years that he has been in the league. Nobody thought he would be as good as he was in 2012 and few thought he would regress to where he is now prior to the 2013 and 2014 seasons. So maybe he will substantially exceed expectations.

But if he plays down expectations the Redskins are not necessarily doomed to a repeat of 2014. Scot McCloughan invested a lot of money and several draft picks, including their second rounder, on the defensive side of the ball. He took the top pick and upgraded the offensive line with Brandon Scherff. That should help the running game, which wasn’t a whole lot more effective than the passing attack last year (19th in yardage, 15th in average per attempt). Even if Griffin does struggle the Redskins could still be respectable.

That’s respectable as in seven wins or so, not as in playoff contenders. The will have to get better play out of the quarterback position, whether it’s Griffin or someone else, if they are going to improve to the point that fans want them to. But for 2015 they will have to do what they can to help out the 24th-best quarterback in the league and take it from there.

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—It’s been 193 days since the Redskins played a game. It will be 66 days until they play the Dolphins at FedEx Field.

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Fantasy Football -- Updated Week 7 rankings

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Fantasy Football -- Updated Week 7 rankings

The latest Week 7 fantasy football (standard) rankings are out and updated following various injury updates around the league. That includes Buccaneers quarterback Jameis Winston cleared for action and Redskins cornerback Josh Norman sitting down for another week with a rib injury. As a reminder, get your Lions and Texans out of lineups this week. 

Quarterbacks

1.  Tom Brady, NE
 
2.  Dak Prescott, DAL
 
3.  Drew Brees, NO
 
4.  Carson Wentz, PHI
 
5.  Matt Ryan, ATL
 
6.  Kirk Cousins, WAS
 
7.  Cam Newton, CAR
 
8.  Tyrod Taylor, BUF
 
9.  Alex Smith, KC
 
10.  Marcus Mariota, TEN
 
11.  Russell Wilson, SEA
 
12.  Ben Roethlisberger, PIT
 
13.  Carson Palmer, ARI
 
14.  Jared Goff, LAR
 
15.  Brett Hundley, GB
 
16.  Blake Bortles, JAC
 
17.  Derek Carr, OAK
 
18.  Jameis Winston, TB
 
19.  Philip Rivers, LAC
 
20.  Andy Dalton, CIN
 
21.  Case Keenum, MIN
 
22.  Josh McCown, NYJ
 
23.  Trevor Siemian, DEN
 
24.  C.J. Beathard, SF
 
25.  DeShone Kizer, CLE
 
26.  Jacoby Brissett, IND
 
27.  Jay Cutler, MIA
 
28.  Mitch Trubisky, CHI
 
29.  Eli Manning, NYG
 
30.  Joe Flacco, BAL

Running backs

1.  Kareem Hunt, KC
 
2.  Le'Veon Bell, PIT
 
3.  Ezekiel Elliott, DAL
 
4.  Leonard Fournette, JAC
 
5.  Todd Gurley, LAR
 
6.  LeSean McCoy, BUF
 
7.  Jay Ajayi, MIA
 
8.  Melvin Gordon, LAC
 
9.  Devonta Freeman, ATL
 
10.  Mark Ingram, NO
 
11.  Jordan Howard, CHI
 
12.  Carlos Hyde, SF
 
13.  LeGarrette Blount, PHI
 
14.  C.J. Anderson, DEN
 
15.  Jerick McKinnon, MIN
 
16.  Adrian Peterson, ARI
 
17.  Doug Martin, TB
 
18.  Alvin Kamara, NO
 
19.  Chris Thompson, WAS
 
20.  Christian McCaffrey, CAR
 
21.  Joe Mixon, CIN
 
22.  Tevin Coleman, ATL
 
23.  Javorius Allen, BAL
 
24.  Marshawn Lynch, OAK
 
25.  Derrick Henry, TEN
 
26.  DeMarco Murray, TEN
 
27.  Duke Johnson, CLE
 
28.  Frank Gore, IND
 
29.  Aaron Jones, GB
 
30.  Orleans Darkwa, NYG
 
31.  Ty Montgomery, GB
 
32.  Isaiah Crowell, CLE
 
33.  Jonathan Stewart, CAR
 
34.  Mike Gillislee, NE
 
35.  Dion Lewis, NE
 
36.  Alex Collins, BAL
 
37.  James White, NE
 
38.  Marlon Mack, IND
 
39.  Latavius Murray, MIN
 
40.  Chris Ivory, JAC
 
41.  Tarik Cohen, CHI
 
42.  Matt Forte, NYJ
 
43.  Thomas Rawls, SEA
 
44.  Wendell Smallwood, PHI
 
45.  Giovani Bernard, CIN
 
46.  Robert Kelley, WAS
 
47.  Andre Ellington, ARI
 
48.  Matt Breida, SF
 
49.  Bilal Powell, NYJ
 
50.  Wayne Gallman, NYG
 
51.  Jamaal Charles, DEN
 
52.  Eddie Lacy, SEA
 
53.  Samaje Perine, WAS
 
54.  Shane Vereen, NYG
 
55.  Elijah McGuire, NYJ
 
56.  C.J. Prosise, SEA
 
57.  Jalen Richard, OAK
 
58.  Mike Tolbert, BUF
 
59.  DeAndre Washington, OAK
 
60.  Charcandrick West, KC
 
61.  Alfred Morris, DAL

Wide receivers

1.  Dez Bryant, DAL
 
2.  Antonio Brown, PIT
 
3.  A.J. Green, CIN
 
4.  Julio Jones, ATL
 
5.  Michael Thomas, NO
 
6.  Mike Evans, TB
 
7.  Larry Fitzgerald, ARI
 
8.  Chris Hogan, NE
 
9.  Brandin Cooks, NE
 
10.  Demaryius Thomas, DEN
 
11.  Michael Crabtree, OAK
 
12.  Alshon Jeffery, PHI
 
13.  Tyreek Hill, KC
 
14.  Jordy Nelson, GB
 
15.  Jarvis Landry, MIA
 
16.  Adam Thielen, MIN
 
17.  Doug Baldwin, SEA
 
18.  Pierre Garcon, SF
 
19.  Davante Adams, GB
 
20.  Keenan Allen, LAC
 
21.  Rishard Matthews, TEN
 
22.  Kelvin Benjamin, CAR
 
23.  T.Y. Hilton, IND
 
24.  Devin Funchess, CAR
 
25.  John Brown, ARI
 
26.  DeSean Jackson, TB
 
27.  Eric Decker, TEN
 
28.  Terrelle Pryor, WAS
 
29.  Danny Amendola, NE
 
30.  Amari Cooper, OAK
 
31.  Nelson Agholor, PHI
 
32.  Kenny Stills, MIA
 
33.  Cooper Kupp, LAR
 
34.  Robert Woods, LAR
 
35.  Ted Ginn, NO
 
36.  Jermaine Kearse, NYJ
 
37.  Martavis Bryant, PIT
 
38.  Robby Anderson, NYJ
 
39.  Allen Hurns, JAC
 
40.  Bennie Fowler, DEN
 
41.  Sammy Watkins, LAR
 
42.  Randall Cobb, GB
 
43.  Taylor Gabriel, ATL
 
44.  Sterling Shepard, NYG
 
45.  Ricardo Louis, CLE
 
46.  Tyler Lockett, SEA
 
47.  Mohamed Sanu, ATL
 
48.  JuJu Smith-Schuster, PIT
 
49.  Willie Snead, NO
 
50.  Jeremy Maclin, BAL
 
51.  Paul Richardson, SEA
 
52.  Tyrell Williams, LAC
 
53.  Kendall Wright, CHI
 
54.  Josh Doctson, WAS
 
55.  Jamison Crowder, WAS
 
56.  Torrey Smith, PHI
 
57.  Mike Wallace, BAL
 
58.  Jaron Brown, ARI
 
59.  Roger Lewis, NYG
 
60.  Zay Jones, BUF
 
61.  Donte Moncrief, IND
 
62.  Cole Beasley, DAL
 
63.  Kenny Britt, CLE
 
64.  Brice Butler, DAL
 
65.  De'Anthony Thomas, KC
 
66.  Travis Benjamin, LAC
 
67.  J.J. Nelson, ARI
 
68.  Marquise Goodwin, SF
 
69.  Terrance Williams, DAL
 
70.  Jeremy Kerley, NYJ

Tight ends

1.  Rob Gronkowski, NE
 
2.  Zach Ertz, PHI
 
3.  Travis Kelce, KC
 
4.  Delanie Walker, TEN
 
5.  Jimmy Graham, SEA
 
6.  Evan Engram, NYG
 
7.  Hunter Henry, LAC
 
8.  Austin Seferian-Jenkins, NYJ
 
9.  Jordan Reed, WAS
 
10.  Austin Hooper, ATL
 
11.  Kyle Rudolph, MIN
 
12.  Cameron Brate, TB
 
13.  George Kittle, SF
 
14.  Jason Witten, DAL
 
15.  Zach Miller, CHI
 
16.  Jared Cook, OAK
 
17.  Ed Dickson, CAR
 
18.  Benjamin Watson, BAL
 
19.  Jack Doyle, IND
 
20.  Martellus Bennett, GB
 
21.  Nick O'Leary, BUF
 
22.  Tyler Kroft, CIN
 
23.  Vernon Davis, WAS
 
24.  Coby Fleener, NO
 
25.  Julius Thomas, MIA

Defenses

1.  Minnesota Vikings, MIN
 
2.  Seattle Seahawks, SEA
 
3.  Jacksonville Jaguars, JAC
 
4.  Pittsburgh Steelers, PIT
 
5.  Tennessee Titans, TEN
 
6.  Buffalo Bills, BUF
 
7.  Denver Broncos, DEN
 
8.  Carolina Panthers, CAR
 
9.  Miami Dolphins, MIA
 
10.  New Orleans Saints, NO
 
11.  Kansas City Chiefs, KC
 
12.  Los Angeles Rams, LAR
 
13.  Baltimore Ravens, BAL
 
14.  New York Giants, NYG
 
15.  Philadelphia Eagles, PHI
 
16.  Cincinnati Bengals, CIN
 
17.  New York Jets, NYJ
 
18.  Chicago Bears, CHI
 
19.  Arizona Cardinals, ARI
 
20.  Dallas Cowboys, DAL

Kickers

1.  Stephen Gostkowski, NE
 
2.  Dan Bailey, DAL
 
3.  Jake Elliott, PHI
 
4.  Harrison Butker, KC
 
5.  Matt Bryant, ATL
 
6.  Will Lutz, NO
 
7.  Ryan Succop, TEN
 
8.  Greg Zuerlein, LAR
 
9.  Graham Gano, CAR
 
10.  Justin Tucker, BAL
 
11.  Josh Lambo, JAC
 
12.  Blair Walsh, SEA
 
13.  Adam Vinatieri, IND
 
14.  Nick Novak, LAC
 
15.  Mason Crosby, GB
 
16.  Robbie Gould, SF
 
17.  Kai Forbath, MIN
 
18.  Aldrick Rosas, NYG
 
19.  Steven Hauschka, BUF
 
20.  Brandon McManus, DEN

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Josh Norman out against Eagles in Monday night matchup, plus full injury report

Josh Norman out against Eagles in Monday night matchup, plus full injury report

The Redskins will be without one of their top defenders when they take on the Eagles on Monday night.

Jay Gruden announced that CB Josh Norman is out for the second straight game with a broken rib. Norman was able to practice on a limited basis earlier this week but he did not practice today. Gruden said that the recovery from the injury just had not progressed to the point where the doctors would clear him to play.

Bashaud Breeland, the other starting cornerback, is listed as questionable with a knee injury he sustained last week against the 49ers. “He did a good job today,” said Gruden. “He’s looking better.”

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Gruden said that a final determination on Breeland’s status will be made on Sunday.

With Norman out, Quinton Dunbar, who did a good job filling in against the 49ers, will start. If both of the starters are sidelined, rookie Fabian Moreau will get the start opposite Dunbar.

Also listed as questionable are RB Rob Kelley (ankle), S Deshazor Everett (hamstring), S Stefan McClure (knee), and LB Mason Foster (shoulder).

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Kelley is still recovering from an ankle injury he suffered against the Chiefs on Oct. 2 but he has looked good while practicing on a limited basis this week. If he can’t go it seems likely that Samaje Perine will start in his place.

It should be noted that the term “questionable” on an injury report means that it is “uncertain if the player will play”. Many say that means that there is at least a 50 percent chance that the player will be active for the game. So there are a lot of scenarios that could unfold with that designation.

Reserve offensive linemen Ty Nsekhe (core muscle) and Tyler Catalina (concussion) also have been declared out for Monday night.

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