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How Farhan Zaidi views Madison Bumgarner, Giants in MLB free agency

How Farhan Zaidi views Madison Bumgarner, Giants in MLB free agency

SAN FRANCISCO -- Farhan Zaidi spent 32 minutes Tuesday talking about his first season as the Giants' president of baseball operations and his plans for his first full offseason. Many of the questions focused on three topics: The ballpark, the search for a new manager, and the need to hire a general manager. 

All three of those issues might be resolved before the Giants get to the one that may be most important to the fan base: What's going to happen with Madison Bumgarner?

Zaidi expects another long offseason for marquee free agents, and that could include Bumgarner, who is a month from hitting the open market for the first time. The left-hander is excited about seeing what's out there, but if you're waiting for the Giants to publicly court him, you'll be waiting a long time. 

Zaidi, as a rule, does not talk about his interest in free agents. Asked about his own players Tuesday, he gave a general answer. 

"We have a certain level of interest in bringing all those guys back," Zaidi said. "We anticipate those guys will want to see what's out there in free agency. Some of them publicly commented on it, which is their right, and it's exactly what we'd expect them to do."

In addition to Bumgarner, closer Will Smith and catcher Stephen Vogt are scheduled to be free agents. Left-handed reliever Tony Watson can opt out of the third year of his deal, although he's believed to be strongly considering a return. With incentives, he could make $7 million next season. 

Bumgarner and Smith will be due much more than that, though both could be hampered by qualifying offers. It is a lock that one will be placed on Bumgarner, and the Giants are strongly considering giving one to Smith. They would either recoup a draft pick or get an All-Star closer on a one-year deal worth a bit more than $18 million. 

"I will say kind of at the outset of free agency, we have interest in at least having discussions about those guys coming back," Zaidi said of his free agents. 

Asked about Bumgarner, Zaidi noted the "tremendous track record" and the reliability that "every team in baseball could use." It's unclear what the market will look like, but the 30-year-old Bumgarner has always been confident that it will be there and be healthy. At the very least, the Atlanta Braves, the closest franchise to Bumgarner's North Carolina home, figure to give the Giants a run for their money.

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With Bumgarner a free agent, the Giants will enter the offseason with Jeff Samardzija and Johnny Cueto atop their rotation and Logan Webb, Tyler Beede, Shaun Anderson and Dereck Rodriguez (who will play Winter Ball) filling things out. No matter what happens with Bumgarner, it's clear some veteran help will be brought in. 

"It's going to be a necessity for us and it's a priority for us to continue developing our young pitchers," Zaidi said. "But certainly, having veteran pitchers around them is valuable from a competitiveness standpoint and also valuable from a developmental standpoint."

Madison Bumgarner's D-backs career has started with troubling trend

Madison Bumgarner's D-backs career has started with troubling trend

The Giants had a decision to make last year as the July 31 trade deadline neared. Do they trade their longtime ace and postseason hero during Bruce Bochy's final season as manager, or do they hold on to him and compete for a wild-card berth? 

President of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi ultimately held on to Madison Bumgarner, but the Giants came back down to reality after a red-hot July and fell well short of the NL Wild Card Game. When it came to free agency, however, Zaidi and the rest of the Giants' front office weren't willing to give Bumgarner his desired contract. The big lefty still stayed in the NL West, signing a five-year, $85 million contract with the Arizona Diamondbacks.

Through three stats, though, Bumgarner has shown a troubling trend in the desert. His velocity has continued to dip, and he now has a 7.04 ERA after allowing eight runs (seven earned) over 4 1/3 innings Tuesday against the Houston Astros. Bumgarner leads baseball in earned runs allowed (12) and hit by pitches (four). 

After a three-year run of his four-seam fastball dropping in velocity, Bumgarner was back up to 91.4 mph last season for the Giants. His fastball velocity so far for the D-backs is back down. And it's a big drop. 

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Bumgarner's average four-seam fastball this season is just 87.9 mph, according to Baseball Savant. Despite not being a flamethrower on the hill, Bumgarner still has found ways to be effective in past seasons. He did have a career-high 3.90 ERA last season, but that number is far from concerning. The sample size is only three games this year. Still, it has been a concerning start. 

The recently-turned 31-year-old is averaging a career-low 6.5 strikeouts per nine innings while also allowing career-highs in walks per nine (3.5) and homers per nine (1.8). 

Bumgarner threw 83 pitches Tuesday against the Astros. Not one was recorded at 90 mph. The highest-velocity pitch Bumgarner threw was an 89.3 mph fastball to Yuli Gurriel. That was his only pitch that even reached 89 mph, too.

His fastball has been historically slow for himself this season.

While Bumgarner just turned 31, he has an unbelievable amount of wear and tear on his left arm. Since he became a regular at 20 years old for the Giants in 2010, Bumgarner averaged 184 innings pitched in the regular season, and that includes two shortened seasons to freak injuries. Including the playoffs, Bumgarner already has 1,963 2/3 innings pitched to his name.

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The Giants used their Bumgarner compensation pick in the 2020 MLB Draft on NC State lefty Nick Swiney, who already comes in as the Giants' No. 17 prospect in MLB Pipeline's most recent update. It's unfair to forever connect him to a franchise icon, but that will be true of his situation, good or bad, throughout his career. There's no minor league season for Swiney to get off to a good start, though it's clear the Giants have high hopes in someone who went 4-0 with a 1.29 ERA before the season came to a close this year.

No matter what the future holds for Bumgarner, or Swiney, Giants fans never will forget MadBum's many postseason heroics. The fact is, early on in Bumgarner's Arizona tenure, there seems to be good reason for the "Trust in Farhan" crowd to grow.

Rockies' Nolan Arenado continues to dominate Giants in odd MLB season

Rockies' Nolan Arenado continues to dominate Giants in odd MLB season

In a way, it's almost comforting. Not for Giants pitchers, but for the rest of us. 

In a year in which nearly everything about baseball and society has changed, one thing remains as normal as ever. When Nolan Arenado sees a Giants pitcher on the mound, he becomes a nightmare, no matter who that pitcher is or what his swing looked like before the series. 

Arenado came into Monday's game with a .226 average and no extra-base hits in his first eight games, but the Giants, as they always do, got him going. The third baseman hit a mammoth two-run shot off Johnny Cueto on Monday night and a low screamer that just cleared the fence off Kevin Gausman a day later.

"He hit it and I automatically thought it was a double," Gausman said. "It just kind of kept going and kept going and the next thing you know it went over the fence. Not the most fun thing. It was a bad pitch in a bad situation.

"Most guys would probably get out on it, the fact that it was so bad, but he does such a good job of keeping his barrel in the zone so long that he can hit those pitches that are out of the zone."

That homer was Arenado's 30th against the Giants, breaking Todd Helton's franchise record. It once again brought up a question we've been asking for eight years: What is it about Arenado and the Giants? 

"I don't know, I really don't know. I think whenever you face the Giants -- I've always said this -- coming up when I was a rookie it was the Giants who were the team. They would go to the World Series and win every other year it seemed like. They were just in a different category," Arenado told Rockies reporters Tuesday night. "They were so good, so elite, you knew that they were always going to be there. San Francisco, when I first came up, it was daunting going there. I don't know what it is. There's always motivation. It's like going to L.A. now. You always get excited because of the energy in San Fran, the energy in L.A. It's always super fun to play against them. 

"For some reason our games against the Giants here are always kind of crazy, but I really don't know. I really don't know. I'm just happy I'm doing it. Hopefully it continues but I really don't have the answers for that one."

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Arenado always has said he's not sure why the numbers are so skewed. If anything, he should like the Giants more than any other organization. They drafted his younger brother, Jonah, in 2013, and Nolan would light up over the years talking about following a career that ended in 2019 when Jonah was released from Double-A. 

But on the field, there's nothing, even a weird 60-game season, that can stop him from demolishing Giants pitching. Bruce Bochy is gone. Madison Bumgarner is gone. Buster Posey is sitting out. Same old, same old for Arenado. 

"Yeah, he's always going to be who he is," right fielder Alex Dickerson said. "By the end of the year he's going to be a fantastic hitter and sometimes you see a guy that good is that cold to start and you know something is going to happen."

Arenado said Monday that he hasn't "felt right at all this year." He spent time before the series opener working on hitting drills and testing new bats. But perhaps all he needed was to look into the opposing dugout. 

Arenado has played 128 games against the Giants and has a .296 average, .359 on-base percentage and .562 slugging percentage, with 103 RBI. Those 30 homers are his most against any opponent and came in 102 fewer games than Helton needed to get his 29. 

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This is nothing new to Giants fans, but it is to manager Gabe Kapler. Arenado was just 12-for-48 with no homers against the Philadelphia Phillies in Kapler's two years there, but Kapler said Arenado always was the guy he wanted to avoid when he would come into Denver.

"You don't want him up in a big spot," he said. "The tricky part is he's got some guys around him who you don't want up in a big spot, either. From Charlie Blackmon to (David) Dahl, to Trevor Story, who I think is one of the more dangerous right-handed hitters in baseball. It's not an easy middle of the lineup to get through, and this is something you'll hear me say about a lot of the lineups in baseball.

"They're just stacked in the middle, but in particular with Arenado, I know he's been a Giant-killer. We're always aware of his presence."