2008 Boston Celtics

Why Kendrick Perkins doesn't think Kevin Garnett's beef with Ray Allen will be solved

Why Kendrick Perkins doesn't think Kevin Garnett's beef with Ray Allen will be solved

Kendrick Perkins was a part of the Boston Celtics' title-winning team in 2007-08. But after he left the team via trade ahead of the 2011 NBA trade deadline, the wheels started to fall off for the franchise.

Without Perkins at center, the 2011 C's couldn't do much in the postseason, as the aging O'Neals — Shaquille and Jermaine — couldn't hold up at center. The core players lasted together for another season after that, but a seven-game defeat in the Eastern Conference Finals at the hands of the Miami Heat broke up the "Big Three" for good.

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In a recent appearance on the "Runnin' Plays" Podcast from NBC Sports Bay Area, Perkins discussed the departure of Ray Allen from the Celtics. And he spoke about why he doesn't believe the beef between Allen and Kevin Garnett will ever be solved.

As Perkins explains, the discord among the parties can be traced back to the role Allen played during the 2011-12 season, and how his behavior after the C's lost to the Miami Heat in the Eastern Conference Finals rubbed some the wrong way.

What happened was this. So, Ray during that time wasn't happy because Doc made him the sixth man. He made him come off the bench. He wasn't happy about that. And, during that time, Boston had taken a 3-2 lead over Miami... they go to Game 7, they lose in Game 7.

But guys felt like Ray wasn't all the way in. And guys saw Ray talking to 'Bron and some of the Heat players after the game. And the way they was rocking it at the time, if you wasn't Celtics ... Our locker room wasn't open for people to walk in, none of that.

And while Allen's seeming lack of buy-in at the end of the playoffs was a problem for the Celtics team, his actions during the 2012 offseason were really what did in his relationship with the team, as Perkins detailed.

During that summer, Danny had a deal on the table for two years, $12 million, $6 million a year for Ray. Ray wasn't calling nobody, he wasn't answering his phone. Then all of a sudden, he signed a two-year, $6 million deal with the Heat. Right? So it's like a slap in the face with no warning, no nothing. It's like, what? That's how you rockin' Ray? And all of the sudden, with KG, that was it. 

I know one thing with KG. It ain't no in-between with KG. He either don't like you, or he love you to death. That's just how it is.

It's easy to see why Garnett and Co. would hold a bit of grudge. Allen wasn't buying in, or at least his teammates didn't think he was, and then left to go to the team that beat the Celtics on a deal that was half as valuable as what the C's were offering. As Perkins put it, there was "no loyalty."

Perhaps Garnett and the C's feel that Allen's departure cost them a shot at another title. They struggled to a 41-40 regular season recording during the 2012-13 season and had trouble finding a true replacement for Allen, as Courtney Lee and Jason Terry largely didn't work out as big-name acquisitions for the C's. And after that, the team was officially broken up when Garnett and Pierce were traded to the Brooklyn Nets.

We'll see if Allen and Garnett ever reconcile. Tony Allen was hopeful that something could reunite the whole team in the future, but based on Perk's account of events, it doesn't sound like Allen and Garnett will be making up any time soon.

For more of Perkins' interview including his thoughts about being traded and a wild Kevin Garnett story, check out the "Runnin' Plays" Podcast from NBC Sports Bay Area.

Tony Allen on Ray Allen, 2008 Celtics feud: Time to 'nip it in the bud'

Tony Allen on Ray Allen, 2008 Celtics feud: Time to 'nip it in the bud'

There is a lot of love between most of the members of the 2007-08 Boston Celtics, the most recent C's squad to come away with an NBA championship. But there is one player with whom other members of the team have some bad blood: shooting guard Ray Allen.

Allen played for the Celtics for five seasons after being traded by the then-Seattle Supersonics. He helped to create the team's "Big Three" along with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce. But some members of the team have yet to forgive him for his decision to join the Miami Heat in 2012, a Celtics rival led by LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh.

In particular, Allen and Rajon Rondo have had an ongoing beef since that moment, and likely before. And as a result, Allen hasn't been included in many of the reunions and festivities that the '08 Celtics have participated in during recent years.

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That said, there are some who are confident that the feud can be settled in the future. And former Celtics guard Tony Allen is among them. In a recent interview with Cedric Maxwell, Allen spoke about the feud between Ray Allen and the C's and about how he understands why the veteran made the decision to sign with the Heat.

"I heard both sides," Tony Allen said, as transcribed by Bobby Manning and CLNS Media on Celtics Blog. "Some guys felt [Ray Allen] should’ve holla’d at them before he left, but we all know how tricky this business is. Upstairs management, he probably didn’t see eye-to-eye with them and then turmoil with the teammates just gave him enough in his mindset to say I’m just as good enough to play with some of these other talented players which was the upcoming LeBron and Dwyane Wade guys ... I’m not mad at him, I’m pretty sure Ticket (Garnett) ain’t mad at him, but we definitely need to get some type of reunion going."

Allen was adamant about that last point and seems to think that if Ray Allen was able to meet up with the rest of the Celtics and spend one day together, the relationship would be repaired.

"You look at all these other championship teams that come back, reunite and things of that nature," Allen said. "The public eye really want to see you together, really want to see y’all in a picture together if anything. Just to kill all the noise for people like us to just stop even talking about it. I can’t wait for one of those boys to have a dinner and it’s gon’ crack ... I just think we need to do that, make that happen, somebody set that up and nip it in the bud, man.”

Tony Allen is right about one thing. Fans would absolutely love to see the '08 team back in its entirety. They are a beloved group of players, and Pierce, Garnett, and Allen, in particular, had an influence on how the Celtics have played over the course of the past decade-plus. Seeing them back together and burying the hatchet would be a sight for sore eyes.

But until then, we'll have to wait. Ray Allen still seems to be ostracized from the group, but maybe Tony Allen can set up something and get the band back together.

Classic Celtics: Watch two historic C's playoff rallies on 'Comeback Sunday'

Classic Celtics: Watch two historic C's playoff rallies on 'Comeback Sunday'

If you need a little inspiration to cap off your weekend, tune in to NBC Sports Boston on Sunday night.

Our "Classic Celtics" series returns Sunday with a double dip of come-from-behind Celtics wins from the archives.

First, we'll rebroadcast Game 3 of Boston's Eastern Conference Finals matchup with the (then-) New Jersey Nets, in which the Celtics pulled off the largest comeback in NBA playoff history by rallying from a 26-point deficit to win 94-90.

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Immediately after that game, we'll take you to Game 4 of the 2008 NBA Finals, which saw Boston storm back from a 24-point hole to stun the Los Angeles Lakers in a 97-91 road victory.

We're calling it "Comeback Sunday," and it all begins Sunday at 7 p.m. ET on NBC Sports Boston with some special guest commentators.

Kyle Draper and Brian Scalabrine (who was a rookie on that 2002 Nets team) will give an on-air breakdown of Celtics-Nets, while former Celtics point guard Eddie House will join Scalabrine for the Celtics-Lakers game.

Here's how to watch:

When: Sunday, April 19, 7 p.m. and 9 p.m. ET
TV: NBC Sports Boston
Streaming: NBCSportsBoston.com and the MyTeams app

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