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Bulls avoid meltdown, defeat Suns in double OT

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Bulls avoid meltdown, defeat Suns in double OT

Thursday, Nov. 25, 2010
Updated 2:18 AM

By Aggrey Sam
CSNChicago.com

PHOENIX Listening to the jubilant U.S. Airways Center visitors locker room, you would think divine intervention was the reason for the Bulls thrilling 123-115 double-overtime win over the Suns.

God was on our side, I guess, opined a thoughtful Joakim Noah.

Were blessed to get this win, remarked Derrick Rose.

In reality, the higher power in the triumph was the teams chemistry.

After starting the game down 25-6 to a Phoenix squad that appeared to be reliving its 10 seconds or less contender heyday with NBA playmaker emeritus Steve Nash (14 points, 16 assists) serving as maestro and former Bull Hakim Warrick burning his old team for 23 first-half points (although he would go scoreless afterwards) the shellshocked Bulls knew they had an uphill battle to fight.

And fight they did.

Nash, hes the best pick-and-roll player in the NBA. Hes an unbelievable player and I think by switching, you make him more of a one-on-one player and take away all his little bounce passes. Hakim Warrick was really killing us in the first half until we started switching out. It worked for us tonight, said Noah, who came up with 17 points, 15 rebounds and an especially significant five assists in the absence of usual tag-team partner Taj Gibson, who was sidelined with a right ankle injury.

One thing about this team is you can really look at yourself in the mirror and say, win or lose, we make mistakes, but were giving everything weve got to try to win and thats a great feeling, Noah continued.

We just kept fighting. It wasnt going our way, but were the type of team thats grimy and were never going to stop, said Rose, who finished with a game-high 35 points, 12 rebounds and seven assists before fouling out. We can be down 20 points, 30 points we never want to be in that situation, but we were forced to be in that situation by the way that we were playing were going to come back.

We knew that we could go out there and play better. Not to say anything bad about them, but we knew we could come back on that team. We always played hard throughout the whole game, except in the beginning when we gave them the lead, and we never turned around, continued Rose, who attributed the teams sluggish start to fatigue from the back-to-back game sequence, as they lost a hard-fought contest to the Lakers the previous night on the continuation of the teams seven-game road trip.

A strong effort from the second unit sharpshooter Kyle Korver broke out of a single-game funk, rookie center Omer Asik played his usual stout interior defense and even seldom-used second-year forward James Johnson may have earned his way back into the regular rotation with his energetic effort and timely contributions propelled Chicagos gradual slicing of an initially overwhelming deficit.

When youre down like that, you just start playing free. Our second unit came in and played really hard, said Korver, who scored 24 points coming off an uncharacteristic 1-for-6 outing the previous night in Los Angeles and also contributed five rebounds and three steals. Obviously last night, some guys played a lot of minutes, it was a late night and we came out a little bit tired. The second unit came in, played well, kind of picked us up a little bit.

Despite the best efforts of Suns veterans like Grant Hill (team-high 27 points, eight rebounds), Jason Richardson (20 points, seven rebounds) and Channing Frye (16 points, seven rebounds), the Bulls made a furious comeback or two, as their initial push to make the game a single-digit contest was thwarted, leading to yet another charge prior to the games stretch run to turn the tables on Phoenix, shocking the home crowd.

The play of Rose and Luol Deng carried the Bulls offensive load late in regulation, with the former living up to his growing national profile and All-Star status by hitting two clutch free throws to match a pair of Nashs on the previous possession and send the game into its first overtime.

Coach always says hes preparing us, said Deng, who poured in 26 points and snatched 10 rebounds to break out of a slight offensive slump, of Thibodeaus foreshadowing. We practice so hard. Since Ive been in the NBA, Ive never been on a team that practices so hard and thats what prepares you for nights like this.

A back-and-forth first extra session appeared to be going the Suns way the home team was up two points and only 4.3 seconds remained, despite the Bulls owning possession of the ball out of a timeout but Noah, in the high post, would patiently find a cutting Rose backdoor for a reverse layup with just 0.1 seconds on the clock to tie the contest.

Derrick Rose reacts after fouling out in the second overtime vs. Phoenix Wednesday night. Rose scored 35 points, pulled 12 rebounds and dished out seven assists to help the Bulls earn the victory. (AP)Actually, I was supposed to run off the screen. Kyle Korver set a screen for me, but Grant Hill was playing the top side, so I just cut and I was wide open, explained Rose. Jos a good passer, Im good without the ball, he just threw me the ball and I guess I made a good layup."

That was nice, added a smiling Noah he claimed he never looked at the waning seconds on the clock when asked about the play. I think me and Derrick, were pretty good at that. Its a good play because they dont want Derrick coming over the top and getting the ball in his hands, so its all about reading the defense.

In the second and final overtime, Chicago clearly had the momentum although Rose fouling out of the game put some doubt into that theory but another pivotal play by Noah, this time a theft of Nash, the ballhandling magician, would play a major part in sealing the deal.

It was a huge win. It feels good to win right now. The thing that sucks about the league is we cant celebrate it for a week. That would have been great, to be able to celebrate a win like this for a week, offered Noah, whose youthful spirit belies his poise under pressure. Its not a week, but Ill eat some turkey tomorrow.

Things arent always going to go our way. Were going to miss shots, but its all about controlling what you can control and defense is something that you can control, and adjustments and just being aware of the play call that Coach calls when theres a minute left in the game and its tight and the whole crowd is going crazy, Noah, who said while he felt beat up physically, but 150 percent mentally, went on to say.

You get lucky sometimes, but youve got to go and look at film and clean up some things, Rose, at just 22, mature beyond his years, keenly observed. We dont want to be in this predicament again.

For now, they can just give thanks.

That would be the appropriate thing to do Thursday, wouldn't it?

Aggrey Sam is CSNChicago.coms Bulls Insider. Follow him @CSNBullsInsider on Twitter for up-to-the-minute Bulls information and his take on the team, the NBA and much more.

The Bulls aren't trading for Kawhi Leonard, but what would a potential deal look like?

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The Bulls aren't trading for Kawhi Leonard, but what would a potential deal look like?

The Bulls aren't trading for Kawhi Leonard.

Let's get that out of the way before continuing on.

At this stage in their rebuild the Bulls are interested in acquiring pieces - they dealt a Kawhi-like Jimmy Butler 12 months ago for three core parts - and have two picks in next week's NBA Draft.

The Spurs will have myriad options on where to send Leonard, the two-time All-Star and 2014 Finals MVP, and offers will pour in from everywhere. Leonard could also dictate where he plays next season, as he has one year remaining on his deal and will be a free agent after the 2019 season. Certainly a team giving up the assets required to get Leonard would want to know their All-Pro intends on staying.

So that's why. Whichever team deals for Leonard (assuming he is dealt) will be able to put together a more enticing package than the Bulls could (think Boston, the Lakers, Philadelphia). Leonard also reportedly prefers to play in Los Angeles or New York. No mention of Chicago.

But! It's Friday afternoon and we can only churn out so much draft content before our own heads begin spinning. So we figured we would put together the best deal the Bulls could offer for Leonard.

First off, the Bulls would need a gaurantee from Leonard that he intended to re-sign. Like Butler, Leonard wouldn't be able for the supermax extension if he leaves the Spurs. Instead, Leonard could sign a five-year, $188 million max deal with the Bulls, averaging $37.6 million per year.

The Bulls would get a 26-year-old All-Pro just about to enter the prime of his career. Make no mistake about it: Kawhi Leonard is a superstar. It's easy to forget because he played in just nine games last year, but Leonard is just a year removed from a season in which he averaged 25.5 points on 48 percent shooting, 5.8 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 1.8 steals in 33.4 minutes. Oh, and he's won two Defensive Player of the Year awards in 2015 and 2016.

The Bulls would have Leonard through his age 31 season and would give the Bulls a souped-up version of Jimmy Butler, and perhaps one that could get them closer to contention in an Eastern Conference that may be without LeBron James.

The price would be steep. All-Rookie Lauri Markkanen would be the centerpiece of any deal. The Spurs have utilized versatile, small-ball lineups well in the past and adding Markkanen would be like a cheat code for Gregg Popovich. He'd slot in well next to LaMarcus Aldridge, who played 62 percent of his minutes at center last year, according to Basketball Reference. That was the most minutes he had played at center since his rookie season.

The Bulls would also have to include the 7th and 22nd picks in next week's draft, which only makes the deal more unlikely (from 0.01 percent to 0.005 percent). San Antonio could pursue a wing like Mikal Bridges or Kevin Knox and add him to a core that would include Dejounte Murray, Markkanen and Aldridge. The Spurs also have the 18th pick, so they could conceivably have five core players (Markkanen, Murray, 7, 18, 22) 21 years or younger to complement the 32-year-old Aldridge, who bounced back in a big way last season (ironically without Leonard).

Adding Justin Holiday's $4.615 million salary to the deal makes the money work and gives the Spurs another perimeter shooter.

What would the Bulls look like? Well, needless to say they would have found their wing.

Building around Leonard would include Kris Dunn, Zach LaVine and Bobby Portis. With Markkanen gone, Portis would be in line for a significant contract extension and a much larger role in the offense; his per-36 numbers were on par with Kevin Love's and Joel Embiid's a year ago.

PG: Kris Dunn
SG: Zach LaVine
SF: Kawhi Leonard
PF: Bobby Portis
C: Robin Lopez

Alas, this deal is not happening. We can only hope to have angered some of you at this hypothetical, fun mock trade.

A history of teams moving in to the top 5 of the NBA Draft and what it might cost the Bulls

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A history of teams moving in to the top 5 of the NBA Draft and what it might cost the Bulls

It’s difficult to move up in the NBA Draft. Like, really difficult. More often than not it costs more than it should – like free agency – because teams are aware you’re moving up to go after a specific player. Few, if any, teams move up in the draft to position themselves better on draft night. So, you want Player X and don’t think he’ll be around when you pick? Ante up. Show us how much Player X means to your franchise.

Moving up in the top 5 is even more difficult and expensive (duh). The most recent examples are Philadelphia dealing with Boston last year, going from No. 3 to No. 1. The cost was Sacramento’s 2019 first-round pick, which will likely be in the first half of the lottery. In 2009 the Timberwolves dealt two key rotation pieces – Randy Foye and Mike Miller – to the Wizards for the No. 5 pick. In retrospect that doesn’t seem like much, but Foye was three years removed from being the No. 7 pick and had just averaged 16.3 points in 70 games; Miller was 28 and one of the better 3-point shooters in the league.

And when trying to move inside the top 5, you have to go all the way back to 2005. And that’s where Bulls fans should start paying attention.

The Utah Jazz were in desperate need of a point guard after cycling through the likes of Carlos Arroyo, Raul Lopez, Howard Eisley and Keith McLeod (who?) in the two years after John Stockton’s 2002 retirement. Utah had the fifth best odds in the Lottery after a 26-win season and, like the 2018 Bulls, were bumped back a spot after Milwaukee jumped from sixth to first.

Moving back one spot didn’t seem like much on the surface, but it was significant; there were three point guards near the top of the class – Illinois’ Deron Williams, Wake Forest’s Chris Paul and North Carolina’s Raymond Felton – who all had the chance to go in the top 5, along with the consensus top pick Andrew Bogut and the potential-oozing freshman Marvin Williams. Utah GM XXXXXX said the team was interested in Paul or Williams.

So here the Jazz were, sitting at No. 6 with the potential to see the three point guards go ahead of them. In hindsight, the next point guard wouldn’t be taken until Nate Robinson at No. 21. There were three clear-cut top point guards in the class, and Utah needed one of them.

So they found a trade partner. The Portland Trail Blazers had selected high school phenom Sebastian Telfair with the No. 13 pick the previous season, and were ready to hand him the keys to the offense with Damon Stoudamire set for free agency. Not necessarily needing a point guard, Portland became the perfect trading partner for a team looking to move up. Enter the Jazz.

In addition to the No. 6 pick, Utah also had the 27th pick thanks to a draft-night deal the previous season with Dallas.

Armed with assets, hours before the start of the 2005 draft the Jazz sent No. 6, No. 27 and a future first-round pick to the Blazers for the No. 3 pick. The caveat here – as it will later pertain to the Bulls – is that the future first was actually Detroit’s first-round pick in 2006; the Jazz had traded point guard Carlos Arroyo to the Pistons for a first-round pick, which was widely expected to be near the end of the first round. Detroit went 64-18 in ’05-06 and the pick wound up being No. 30; Utah kept its own pick in 2006, which wound up being No. 14.

That was the cost. Three first-round picks, though admittedly No. 27 and the contending Pistons’ pick weren’t oozing with value. Utah selected Williams over Paul, Portland got Martell Webster at No. 6 and used the other two picks on Linas Kleiza and a year later Joel Freeland.

How does this affect the Bulls? They’re in a similar situation as Utah…kind of. The Jazz had missed the playoffs each of the previous two seasons post-Stockton but felt they were turning a corner with 23-year-olds Carlos Boozer and Andrei Kirilenko leading the way. In fact, their eight leading scorers from the previous season were 28 or younger. They were on the right path if they could find a point guard to play with Boozer, Kirilenko, Matt Harpring, Mehmet Okur and Raja Bell.

The Bulls aren’t exactly one specific piece away like Utah clearly was – they’d miss the playoffs the following year but then win between 48 and 54 games each of the next four seasons after. But they could be targeting someone specific in the top 4 of the draft. And they just so happen to have assets, and just so happen to have two teams reportedly willing to move back in a deep class.

Memphis reportedly would like to move back, and if possible add Chandler Parsons’ absurd contract to a deal. This seems like a plausible idea at face value, but the Grizzlies are going to want something substantial in return. They tanked hard – Marc Gasol “rested” eight games after the All-Star break, with Memphis losing all eight of those – for a reason, and they aren’t going to attach their main asset to a deal just to get rid of Parsons’ remaining $49 million. Freeing up cap space is nice, but at what cost? Memphis isn’t in a positon to win now. True, they’d like to try and contend with Gasol (two years left) and Mike Conley (three years left) but attaching the 4th pick to Parsons is different from the Raptors attaching two picks to DeMarre Carroll in a trade with Brooklyn last year; that Raptors pick wound up being No. 29, as the Raptors knew they’d be contending.

The Bulls might entertain a deal of the Nos. 7 and 22 picks for No. 4 and Parsons. If Parsons weren’t included in the deal, it could still get done if Bobby Portis were added. The Bulls love Portis, but he’ll need a significant contract extension in 13 months and Lauri Markkanen has the power forward position on lockdown.

The Hawks are also a potential trade option. They reportedly are looking to move down and still be able to draft Trae Young, who could supplant a disgruntled Dennis Schroder at the point. Again, a package of the Nos. 7 and 22 picks plus Portis could be enough to get the deal done; Atlanta drafted forward John Collins a year ago but he doesn’t offer much as a pick-and-pop power forward. Portis would give them a solid complement. Then again, Atlanta couldn’t be sure Young would be available at 7, especially considering Orlando is picking No. 6 and has a serious need at the point.

Who would the Bulls be targeting at No. 3 or No. 4? Rumors are everywhere so it’s difficult to pinpoint. Michael Porter Jr. could now go as high as No. 2 to the Sacramento. That would mean international sensation Luka Doncic falls. Marvin Bagley’s name has been quiet for a while, while Jaren Jackson Jr. is having “monster workouts” that have him flying up draft boards. We won’t speculate.

For now just know that trading in to the top 5 is difficult. You need the assets to do it (check), a team with enough talent that moving up will push the franchise forward (check), a willing trade partner (check) and a player you really want (check?). The pieces are there for a potential move-up, but actually pulling the trigger is far more difficult than just writing about it.