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Noah needs surgery, could miss 10 weeks

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Noah needs surgery, could miss 10 weeks

Wednesday, Dec. 15, 2010
Posted 7:49 PM Updated 11:33 PM
By Aggrey Sam
CSNChicago.com

TORONTO Perhaps Taj Gibson summed it up best: It seems like we just cant get a break.

Thats even more fitting since Gibson will be one of the Bulls most responsible for filling in for Joakim Noah, as the charismatic center is slated for surgery on a torn ligament in his right thumb Thursday, as first reported Tuesday night by the Chicago Tribune.

Im not playing at a high level. Its hurting, said a dejected Noah after Wednesdays 110-93 Bulls win over the Raptors. Ive got to take anti-inflammatories every time I play. I cant practice. I have to get right and get back to this team.

Im going to miss playing with the guys. Its frustrating because I think we have a chance to be really, really good and Ive never been in a situation where were winning like this, but I know that in the long run, this is what needs to be done, continued Noah, who noted that he had the same surgery on his left hand while in high school. It sucks. Its not what I wantIve been playing through it for a couple weeks now and Ive got to get back to playing at a high level.

Noah, who recorded a typical double-double of 11 points and 11 rebounds Wednesday night the teams medical staff determined before the game that he could do no further damage by playing reportedly could miss 10 weeks of action for the Bulls, who are currently on a seven-game winning streak.

Joakims injury presentation was unusual in that he was able to function at a high level with the injury. More often, athletes are unable to play at all due to pain and instability of the thumb, said Brian Cole, the Bulls team doctor.

Added Bulls general manager Gar Forman: As the days proceeded from the original injury, it became clear for all that surgery was best for Joakim.

We have always valued Joakims toughness and willingness to put the team above himself, but in this case his health took precedence.

Noah has also been dealing with sprains in his right index and middle fingers. Since the initial injury, which first occurred in the Bulls Nov. 27 win in Sacramento, Noah has been in discomfort and has noticeably struggled with his underrated shooting and ball skills, although hes still made an impact with his energy, defense and rebounding ability.

First of all, not being able to practice. Not being able to shoot, use my right hand as much as I want, said Noah of how the injury has affected him. Every time I pass, every time I dribble, it hurts.

Bulls head coach Tom Thibodeau, while obviously not pleased that Noah will miss extended time, is optimistic that the team will survive in his absence.

Its disappointing for Jo, but for us, were confident in the ability of the guys that we have. We have more than enough to win with. Taj has played extremely well for us. Kurt has played well for us. Luol has played well at the four, so we have a number of players that can step up Omer so we keep moving, said Thibodeau, who told reporters that he hasnt settled on Noahs replacement yet.

Were looking at whats best for him right now and I think, long-term, its the right decision. Its unfortunate, but thats a part of the game. Guys get hurt and when theyre injured and they need surgery, they have to do itwere confident that we have more than enough to win with.

One through 14, I have a lot of confidence in all the guys and when you look at our bench, we have several players who have started a number of games in this league, Thibodeau went on to say. If you look at last year, what Kurt did in Milwaukee when he was called upon, he stays ready, so you always have confidence in his ability and I think what he also does is he gives you a tremendous low-post defender and he gives you a pick-and-pop player in the pick-and-roll, which will add to what Derrick is doing out there.

Taj has played extremely well, so his minutes will be increased. I was trying to figure out a way to get him more minutes. I like Lu at the four. You cant say enough about what Lu has done this year. Hes played the two, the three, the four, hes guarded all those positions, hes made a lot of big plays for us, a lot of intangibles, he gets to loose balls, he rebounds. So, his minutes will go back up also.

Of Noahs potential replacements, Gibson is most familiar with filling in for his teammates, having done so when ex-Bulls forward Tyrus Thomas missed time early last season and stepping in for Carlos Boozer to start this campaign.

It seems like we just cant get a break. As soon as I got into the league, Tyrus got hurt. This year, we were expected to come in so fired up, then Booz got hurt. Now, Joakim, one of the vocal leaders of this team, goes down. Its a lot for a team to go through, Gibson told CSNChicago.com. It just prepares guys. Like Coach says, guys are just going to have to step up. Omers going to have to play big. Even me, Ill play big once again. But were optimistic, we know whats ahead of us, and guys are ready to step in.

We should be able to replace Noahs energy, but it happens first in practice. It happens with guys getting each other better. Were going to have to step up and just man up. Were trying to go deep in the playoffs this year and be one of the top teams in the East, he continued. Were confident. We have to be confident. Whenever you feel down, somebodys going to knock you down again and try to keep you down. You have to keep being optimistic, keep your head up and keep going.

Kurt Thomas, who filled in for Bucks star center Andrew Bogut at the end of last season, as Milwaukee almost upset the Atlanta Hawks, in the first round of the playoffs, is also accustomed to substituting for key players.

Im just going to go out there and do my job when my numbers called. Thats what Ive been doing my whole career. Just go out there and play, said Thomas, at 38 one of the leagues oldest players. I havent been out there with those guys really yet, but when were in practice, its a lot of fun. We compete against each other, but Im definitely looking forward to going out there on the floor. Ive just got to wait until he Thibodeau calls my number.

Injuries are a part of the game. Ive definitely had my share of injuries over my career and when the opportunitys there, youve just got to take advantage of it, go out there and compete, play both ends of the floor just continue to do what Ive been doing my whole career.

Noahs fellow team captains are saddened by his injury, but believe the Bulls will be able to keep their current momentum going even without their man in the middle.

Its going to be tough. Weve got a lot of guys in the locker room that can step up, but Jo is a big piece of what were trying to do. Hes a big piece of our team every night, so its just going to be an adjustment every night and its something that he needs to get better. Weve got to. Weve got no choice. Its tough to replace Joguys that werent playing much minutes are going to have to step up, Luol Deng told CSNChicago.com.

You never want to go through it, but youve got to take the positives out of every situation. I know its going to be tough on Jo to sit out, but hes got to understand that he needs to and weve got bigger goals right now to have him play with an injury like that, and not helping us later on. Just take care of the problem and well do the best we can until he gets back, and well be a better team when he gets back.

I have total confidence in the guys that we have in this locker room. We showed it before with Boozer being out and even when Derrick missed that one game, we had guys step back. You dont want to be in that situation, but its not the worst thing ever.

Boozer, who missed the first two months of the season after suffering a broken fifth metacarpal during training camp, especially sympathizes with Noahs plight.

I just told him to keep his head up. Obviously I started the season with something similar. Mine was a bone, his was a ligament. I told him well try to hold it down for him. Weve got guys that are going to have to step up big. Taj Gibson is capable of it, big Omer is capable of it and myself, as well, so weve all got to step up in his absence, said Boozer.

Im going to tell you: Hes a warrior for playing through it for two or three weeks. Youve got to take your hat off to him for giving up his hand for us for as long as he has.

Obviously wed rather be playing with Jo. Let me make that point clear: Wed rather have Jo out there. But we know hes got to take care of his hand for the long run. We want him healthy 100 percent healthy come playoff time, and weve got to hold it down without him. Weve got to step up and play great without Jo out there. Weve got confidence in the guys that are going to be playing in his absence, but we also wish him a speedy recovery, he added.

We knew a few days ago, but he wanted to play tonight and he did a great jobhes a warrior and hes been that way since Ive been here. Hes been like that since before I got here, so again I say we take our hats off to him for playing through the pain he has for the last two or three weeks. We wish him a speedy recovery to get back because were going to need him down the stretch.

Derrick Rose, who came into Wednesdays game as a major injury concern himself, expressed confidence that the Bulls would be able to ride out the storm without Noah.

Its going to hurt us, but as a team, I think that well continue to play hard and theres no excuses in this league. Weve still got to go out here and play these games, said Rose, who played through soreness in his right elbow and hip in the aftermath of an injury scare Monday night. The people thats coming in for him, theyre going to have to ball, period. Youre going to have to come in and give us the energy that he was giving us.

Its hard replacing Joakim. Booz, we never really got a chance to play with him until now, so we didnt have time to just replace him like thatbut just losing Jo just out of nowhere, its going to be tough, he continued. Just his energy and what he brings to the game, its going to be different.

Its going to be hard, but I think our confidence is up right now and the way were playing basketball, I think our defense will have to carry us throughout the whole time that hes out.

Noah, who is averaging 14.2 points (on 51.1 percent field-goal shooting), 11.7 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.6 blocked shots and 1.2 steals per game, will have Thursdays surgery performed at Rush University Medical Center. The Bulls will hold an afternoon press conference, during which Forman and team trainer Fred Tedeschi will address the media.

Well be fine. Were very good, we have a great team and thats whats frustrating, not being able to play with these guys, said Noah before the Bulls departed Toronto and headed back to the Windy City. Ive had a little time to think about whether I was going to get the surgery or not, but I think its the right thing to do.

I spoke to my family and decided its the best thing to do right now. I got a lot of support from my teammates and the coaching staff, and Pax Bulls executive John Paxson and Gar. Theyre behind me and I think this team, obviously has a lot of potential and in the long run, could be something special.

With the goal in mind to make it back for that aforementioned something special rather than jeopardize his season in the middle of a hot streak, Noahs team-first mentality has never been more evident.

Aggrey Sam is CSNChicago.com's Bulls Insider. Follow him @CSNBullsInsider on Twitter for up-to-the-minute Bulls information and his take on the team, the NBA and much more.

So you want the Bulls to trade up in the NBA Draft? Here's what it costs

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So you want the Bulls to trade up in the NBA Draft? Here's what it costs

NBA Draft capital is incredibly expensive these days.

It's never been cheap, but the price of moving up continues to cost teams a pretty penny without a surefire promise of return on their investment. This proves to be incredibly risky when considering trading in the top 5.

One year ago the Dallas Mavericks, who were picking fifth, wanted Slovenian point guard Luka Doncic. Knowing the Atlanta Hawks were eyeing a point guard, they put together a package that included the No. 5 pick and a top-5 protected first round pick the following season in order to move up two spots. It was a steep price, as the Mavericks wound up with the No. 10 pick in the 2019 NBA Draft that will convey to Atlanta.

Consider two seasons ago, when the Philadelphia 76ers traded the No. 3 pick and the Kings' 2019 first-round pick to move up to No. 1. That Sacramento pick wound up being the No. 14 selection thanks to the Kings' surprise season out West, but at the time it was an incredibly valuable asset that many thought would yield a top-10 pick. The Sixers drafted Markelle Fultz while the Celtics drafted Jayson Tatum. Two years later, Tatum looks like a budding star while the Sixers traded Fultz and his bag of issues to the Magic in February.

In 2009, the Timberwolves traded two key rotation pieces to the Wizards for the No. 5 pick. In hindsight, trading Randy Foye and Mike Miller for a top-5 selection doesn't seem like a lot. But consider that Foye was a 25-year-old coming off a 16.3-point season, while Miller was a 28-year-old with a career mark of 40.1% from beyond the arc and averages of 13.9 points, 5.0 rebounds and 3.2 assists to his name. The price to move up to No. 5 and draft Ricky Rubio - which they did a day later - was steep.

In 2005, the Utah Jazz held the sixth pick in the draft but desperately wanted to move up to get Illinois point guard Deron Williams. On draft night, they sent the No. 6 pick, the No. 27 pick and a future first round pick (Detroit's in 2006, which wound up being No. 30) to move up three spots to No. 3. They were able to grab Williams, and the rest is history.

So if we take out the 2009 trade that didn't include any picks, here's the history of trades involving top 5 picks:

Get: No. 3 overall
Give: No. 5 overall, No. 10 overall the following season

Get: No. 1 overall
Give: No. 3 overall, No. 14 overall the following season

Get: No. 3 overall
Give: No. 6 overall, No. 27 overall, No. 30 the following season

It's not cheap. And as we can see, the cost to move up is getting pricier. The 2019 NBA Draft won't be any different. We know that picks Nos. 1 and 2 are off the table. The New Orleans Pelicans will select Duke's Zion Williamson and the Memphis Grizzlies will follow a few minutes later by taking Murray State point guard Ja Morant. It's also pretty safe to say that the New York Knicks will draft Duke's R.J. Barrett with the third pick.

It gets pretty fuzzy after that. Picks 4-14 are all pretty much in the same tier, to the point that including assets to move up in a class that will be a major dice roll would be tough to justify. Then again, maybe the price to move up to No. 4 or 5 isn't as substantial because there isn't a sure fire player the other team would be giving up by moving back in the first round. In 2005, it was obvious the Jazz were going hard after Williams or Wake Forest's Chris Paul. The Sixers wanted to move up to No. 1 to get Markelle Fultz, who as funny as it seems now, was the consensus top pick. And the Mavericks were clearly eyeing Luka Doncic after the Kings passed on him for Duke's Marvin Bagley.

This time around? It's tough to say. The Bulls need a point guard in the worst way and Vanderbilt's Darius Garland will likely be gone before the Bulls pick at No. 7. It'd behoove the Bulls to jump in front of Phoenix at No. 6; the Suns have similar needs to the Bulls and are in similar situations as far as their respective rebuild goes. But the Bulls aren't once piece away from contending, and none of the players they would go target at No. 4 or 5 would really move the needle next season. That's critical, because they'd almost certainly be including next year's first-round pick in any deal (let's be real and say Kris Dunn's trade value is essentially zilch). If the Bulls were to attach even a heavily protected first round pick, they'd need to be certain they were going to have on-court improvement in the coming years. This is still a team that won 22 games a season ago.

It's too early in the pre-draft process to consider which teams may move back, and who teams trying to move up would want to target. That will happen in the coming weeks. For now, just realize that moving up in the draft costs a whole lot, and you'd better hit on the pick if you're going to give up assets during a rebuild.

NBA Draft: Cam Reddish out to prove doubters, show he's a total package

NBA Draft: Cam Reddish out to prove doubters, show he's a total package

It's never easy being the third wheel. Ask Chris Bosh and Kevin Love, or more currently Klay Thompson. When Cam Reddish signed his Letter of Intent to play for Coach K at Duke, he was joined by a class that included RJ. Barrett and Cam Reddish. He and Barrett were expected to take on the scoring load and lead a freshman-driven Blue Devils team.

But two months after Reddish, Barrett and Jones signed on officially, Zion Williamson committed to Duke and turned everything on its head. On paper, it made the Blue Devils the No. 1 team in the country. It gave them a fourth five-star prospect and arguably the best player in the country. We all know what happened with Williamson; he turned in one of the greatest seasons in college basketball history and will be selected first overall by the Pelicans in a month. Barrett was excellent, too. The oft-criticized wing was an All-American, led the Blue Devils in scoring and cemented his status as a top-3 pick.

Reddish's freshman campaign couldn't have gone more differently. He was inconsistent throughout, finishing his lone season in Durham averaging 13.5 points on 35.6% shooting and just 33.3% from beyond the arc. Even his 3.7 rebounds and 1.9 assists were a far cry from what was expected of a recruit many had ranked ahead of Williamson when the season began. He showed flashes, to be sure, like his 22-point effort against Kentucky, his game-winner at Florida State and his 27-point outing against North Carolina in the infamous Zion-shoe-blowout game. But those flashes weren't enough to save a subpar season that saw his draft stock tumble throughout the fall and winter.

Then again, Reddish was the third option behind two of the most profilic scorers in the country. Barrett had a 32.2% usage rate - 25th highest in the country - and Williamson was a focal point every night he stepped on the floor. In a sense that should have created more open looks for Reddish as defenses keyed in on those two, but in reality it limited his opportunities and made it difficult for him to project at how he would be used on game-by-game basis.

Reddit wasn't making any excuses for his poor season when he spoke to the media on Thursday at the NBA Draft Combine. But he did say he's looking forward to opportunities in the pre-draft process to show off his entire arsenal that made him a top-5 prospect and a potential top NBA pick coming out of high school.

"I feel like I can do everything. I feel like I was more of a shooter this year (at Duke). I don’t really want to think of myself as a shooter," he said. "So I feel like if I just go out there and play my game, I can do a variety of things."

Two key statistics back up Reddish's claim. First, he was excellent on off-the-dribble jump shots, averaging 0.903 points per possession on 62 attempts. That ranked in the 71st percentile nationally. He also dominated in the small sample size of pick-and-roll actions he induced, averaging 1.114 points per possession (91st percentile nationally). It lends credibility to the notion that Reddish is capable with the ball in his hands. Reddish's usage rate was 15th in the ACC, so it's not as though he never touched the ball. But between the Williamson/Barrett combination and the lead point guard in Jones, he was rarely the main (or second) option.

Playing off the ball was certainly new to Reddish, who like so many NBA prospects deal with a new role in not being the go-to scorer once they arrive in the Association. Reddish got a dose of that as a college freshman and struggled to adjust. He was unguarded on 45 percent of his catch-and-shoot attempts and yet ranked in just the 27th percentile nationally at 0.847 points per possession. Worse, he was in the 33rd percentile on spot-up jumpers on 193 possessions. The looks were there. He rarely knocked them down. He also shot just 51 percent at the rim, a troubling number, and that statistic includes freebies in transition that Duke thrived on during the season.

On talent and potential alone, Reddish is still a top-10 pick. He told reporters Thursday that he's hearing he'll fall somewhere in the 3 to 10 range, which sounds about right (though it'd be a shock to see him go before Barrett at No. 3). He still has prototypical NBA wing size - he measured 6-foot-8 with a 7-foot-0.5 wingspan - and is an above average ball handler. But there's no denying his good traits combined with his poor showing at Duke make him a swing-for-the-fences, boom-or-bust pick.

For the Bulls, it might be time to pull the trigger on that kind of player. Both Lauri Markkanen and Wendell Carter Jr. fell into their laps at No. 7 the previous two seasons - that's not to say they shouldn't be applauded for the picks, just that they were expected. But in this year's draft class, players in the 4-14 range all fall into a similar tier. In the Lottery, there will be safe routes to take (De'Andre Hunter, Rui Hachimura), selections for need (Darius Garland, Coby White) and there will be high-risk, high-reward options (Reddish, Sekou Doumbouya, Jarrett Culver).

But the Bulls could do worse than coming out of this year's draft with a player who 7 shorts months ago was a potential pick to go No. 1. He'd have lower expectations playing on a second unit and could spread his wings a little behind Zach LaVine and Otto Porter. Having that freedom on a second unit could be what unlocks that untapped potential that was missing at Duke a year ago.