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Schanowski: Good Start to Long Western Trip

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Schanowski: Good Start to Long Western Trip

Wednesday, November 18th

by Mark Schanowski
CSNChicago.com

Okay, maybe beating Sacramento doesn't qualify as a breakthrough win, but then again, the Bulls hadn't won the first game on the annual Circus trip since way back in 1996. That means Michael, Scottie and the guys lost the first game in 1997 and 1998, years they went on to win an NBA championship! Everything is relative in sports, so I guess we should be glad the Bulls topped the 100 point mark for the first time this season, and held off a late run by the Kings.

John Salmons looked good in his return to Sacramento, scoring a team-high 23 points, and Joakim Noah had another monster all-around game with 15 points and 14 rebounds. Is it too soon to start talking about a spot on the Eastern Conference All-Star team for Noah? I think not......even though the NBA office neglected to put him on the ballot! I'm sure the conference coaches know who he is. And if he continues to lead the league in rebounding, why couldn't he earn a back-up spot behind Dwight Howard?

But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. The Bulls have some brutally tough games coming up on the trip, including the Lakers, Nuggets, Trail Blazers and Jazz, and they'll need to be at their best to finish the 6 game trip with a 3-3 record. Right now, one of the biggest concerns is the play of Rookie of the Year Derrick Rose. Sure, he's still rounding into shape after an ankle injury that caused him to miss most of training camp. But Rose looks like an ordinary point guard right now, with spotty shooting and way too many turnovers. Until Derrick gets back to top form (and I'm sure he will before long), the Bulls will struggle against the elite teams in the league, which means hanging around the .500 mark for the foreseeable future. The Bulls still need a go-to 4th quarter scorer to emerge for all the close games they'll be playing, and so far, that hasn't happened. But they've only played 10 games so far. Plenty of time for some of these issues to sort themselves out.

I wanted to take some time to answer some of the e-mails you sent in. Thanks to one and all. Keep them coming.......I love to hear your opinions on the Bulls and the rest of the NBA.

Name: Dusan B.
City, State: Toronto, Ontario
Question: This is in response to your T-Mac article. I always felt that the Bulls should have signed Von Wafer in the offseason, he would still be a great addition if the Bulls were able to sign him (if his European contract allows it). Another possibility is Nick Young, a great player who's getting no playing time for the Wizards. Monta Ellis is available if you offer Hinrich, and surprisingly James Harden is also. He's fallen somewhat out of favor with the Thunder and now would be the perfect time to snatch him up. When you have time let me know what you think.
MS: Thanks for the questions all the way from Toronto. Too bad you didn't have a trade proposal to bring Chris Bosh to Chicago! Maybe it will happen next summer in free agency. Von Wafer had some good games in the playoffs for Houston last season, but I'm sure he's locked in to his European team for the rest of the season. Nick Young could be a guy to provide scoring off the bench, but not a fourth quarter difference maker. You're right about his playing time...he can barely get on the floor now that Gilbert Arenas is back. Monta Ellis is definitely intriguing, and I'm hearing Golden State might be looking to move him. Trading Hinrich and Tyrus Thomas for Ellis and Anthony Randolph might be a deal that helps both teams. We'll have to send that one to Pax and Gar Forman. Finally, I don't think OKC is going to give up on Harden so quickly. He had a big game off the bench the other night, and he'll probably take the starting two guard job from ex-Bull Thabo Sefolosha before too long.

Name: Ron
City, State: Rogers Park
Question: How much is D-Roses ankle still bothering him? It doesnt look like hes the same player as last season.
MS: Hi Ron, I addressed your question in the body of the story. You're right, he doesn't look like the same player as last season, and until he does, the Bulls can't come close to reaching their potential. I'm not TOO worried though. Derrick works too hard to accept anything less than his best possible performance. My partner, Kendall Gill, says it takes a long time to come back from the ankle injury Rose suffered, so he's looking for Derrick to breakout in December.

Name: Keith (Lifetime Southsider and Chicagoan)
City, State: Chicago IL
Question: Why is it that nobody will call Kirk out for bricking it up??? Folks want to put MORE pressure on Rose. Kirk makes 10 million and is the sole reason we don't have Gordon. Call HIM OUT!!!

MS: You're right Keith. Hinrich is a 41 percent career shooter, and he's been missing all kinds of open jumpers so far this season. The Bulls have been looking to him to hit big shots in the closing stages of close games and he hasn't delivered. I would like to see them explore a trade for a guy who can at least get to the free throw line down the stretch, like Tracy McGrady or Monta Ellis as Dusan suggested above.
Name: Rob H
City, State: Homewood, Illinois
Question: I know you get asked this all the time, but what are the chances we will see Dwayne Wade in a Bulls uniform next season?
MS: I would say very poor. D-Wade loves his life in South Beach, and the Heat can give him more money and more years on a new contract than any other team. Plus, since Miami is so far under the salary cap for next season, there's an excellent chance Pat Riley will bring in either LeBron, Bosh or Amare Stoudemire to team up with D-Wade next season. That could leave the Bulls settling for Carlos Boozer or someone of that caliber, because I don't really see Joe Johnson leaving a good Hawks team, either.
Name: Macio King
City, State: Chicago
Question: Should the Bulls go after Allen Iverson?
MS: Not if I'm the GM. Iverson has already wrecked enough teams, and his skills aren't what they used to be. He doesn't want to come off the bench, and there's no way he would start on the Bulls. Sounds like his best option is the Knicks. They don't even care about winning games this season, so they would probably be glad to get A.I. to keep some interest going until free agency next summer.

Mark Schanowski hosts our Bulls pre and post game studio coverage with 15-year NBA veteran Kendall Gill. You can also watch Mark on SportsNite, Sunday through Thursday at 6:30 and 10.

The Bulls aren't trading for Kawhi Leonard, but what would a potential deal look like?

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The Bulls aren't trading for Kawhi Leonard, but what would a potential deal look like?

The Bulls aren't trading for Kawhi Leonard.

Let's get that out of the way before continuing on.

At this stage in their rebuild the Bulls are interested in acquiring pieces - they dealt a Kawhi-like Jimmy Butler 12 months ago for three core parts - and have two picks in next week's NBA Draft.

The Spurs will have myriad options on where to send Leonard, the two-time All-Star and 2014 Finals MVP, and offers will pour in from everywhere. Leonard could also dictate where he plays next season, as he has one year remaining on his deal and will be a free agent after the 2019 season. Certainly a team giving up the assets required to get Leonard would want to know their All-Pro intends on staying.

So that's why. Whichever team deals for Leonard (assuming he is dealt) will be able to put together a more enticing package than the Bulls could (think Boston, the Lakers, Philadelphia). Leonard also reportedly prefers to play in Los Angeles or New York. No mention of Chicago.

But! It's Friday afternoon and we can only churn out so much draft content before our own heads begin spinning. So we figured we would put together the best deal the Bulls could offer for Leonard.

First off, the Bulls would need a gaurantee from Leonard that he intended to re-sign. Like Butler, Leonard wouldn't be able for the supermax extension if he leaves the Spurs. Instead, Leonard could sign a five-year, $188 million max deal with the Bulls, averaging $37.6 million per year.

The Bulls would get a 26-year-old All-Pro just about to enter the prime of his career. Make no mistake about it: Kawhi Leonard is a superstar. It's easy to forget because he played in just nine games last year, but Leonard is just a year removed from a season in which he averaged 25.5 points on 48 percent shooting, 5.8 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 1.8 steals in 33.4 minutes. Oh, and he's won two Defensive Player of the Year awards in 2015 and 2016.

The Bulls would have Leonard through his age 31 season and would give the Bulls a souped-up version of Jimmy Butler, and perhaps one that could get them closer to contention in an Eastern Conference that may be without LeBron James.

The price would be steep. All-Rookie Lauri Markkanen would be the centerpiece of any deal. The Spurs have utilized versatile, small-ball lineups well in the past and adding Markkanen would be like a cheat code for Gregg Popovich. He'd slot in well next to LaMarcus Aldridge, who played 62 percent of his minutes at center last year, according to Basketball Reference. That was the most minutes he had played at center since his rookie season.

The Bulls would also have to include the 7th and 22nd picks in next week's draft, which only makes the deal more unlikely (from 0.01 percent to 0.005 percent). San Antonio could pursue a wing like Mikal Bridges or Kevin Knox and add him to a core that would include Dejounte Murray, Markkanen and Aldridge. The Spurs also have the 18th pick, so they could conceivably have five core players (Markkanen, Murray, 7, 18, 22) 21 years or younger to complement the 32-year-old Aldridge, who bounced back in a big way last season (ironically without Leonard).

Adding Justin Holiday's $4.615 million salary to the deal makes the money work and gives the Spurs another perimeter shooter.

What would the Bulls look like? Well, needless to say they would have found their wing.

Building around Leonard would include Kris Dunn, Zach LaVine and Bobby Portis. With Markkanen gone, Portis would be in line for a significant contract extension and a much larger role in the offense; his per-36 numbers were on par with Kevin Love's and Joel Embiid's a year ago.

PG: Kris Dunn
SG: Zach LaVine
SF: Kawhi Leonard
PF: Bobby Portis
C: Robin Lopez

Alas, this deal is not happening. We can only hope to have angered some of you at this hypothetical, fun mock trade.

A history of teams moving in to the top 5 of the NBA Draft and what it might cost the Bulls

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A history of teams moving in to the top 5 of the NBA Draft and what it might cost the Bulls

It’s difficult to move up in the NBA Draft. Like, really difficult. More often than not it costs more than it should – like free agency – because teams are aware you’re moving up to go after a specific player. Few, if any, teams move up in the draft to position themselves better on draft night. So, you want Player X and don’t think he’ll be around when you pick? Ante up. Show us how much Player X means to your franchise.

Moving up in the top 5 is even more difficult and expensive (duh). The most recent examples are Philadelphia dealing with Boston last year, going from No. 3 to No. 1. The cost was Sacramento’s 2019 first-round pick, which will likely be in the first half of the lottery. In 2009 the Timberwolves dealt two key rotation pieces – Randy Foye and Mike Miller – to the Wizards for the No. 5 pick. In retrospect that doesn’t seem like much, but Foye was three years removed from being the No. 7 pick and had just averaged 16.3 points in 70 games; Miller was 28 and one of the better 3-point shooters in the league.

And when trying to move inside the top 5, you have to go all the way back to 2005. And that’s where Bulls fans should start paying attention.

The Utah Jazz were in desperate need of a point guard after cycling through the likes of Carlos Arroyo, Raul Lopez, Howard Eisley and Keith McLeod (who?) in the two years after John Stockton’s 2002 retirement. Utah had the fifth best odds in the Lottery after a 26-win season and, like the 2018 Bulls, were bumped back a spot after Milwaukee jumped from sixth to first.

Moving back one spot didn’t seem like much on the surface, but it was significant; there were three point guards near the top of the class – Illinois’ Deron Williams, Wake Forest’s Chris Paul and North Carolina’s Raymond Felton – who all had the chance to go in the top 5, along with the consensus top pick Andrew Bogut and the potential-oozing freshman Marvin Williams. Utah GM XXXXXX said the team was interested in Paul or Williams.

So here the Jazz were, sitting at No. 6 with the potential to see the three point guards go ahead of them. In hindsight, the next point guard wouldn’t be taken until Nate Robinson at No. 21. There were three clear-cut top point guards in the class, and Utah needed one of them.

So they found a trade partner. The Portland Trail Blazers had selected high school phenom Sebastian Telfair with the No. 13 pick the previous season, and were ready to hand him the keys to the offense with Damon Stoudamire set for free agency. Not necessarily needing a point guard, Portland became the perfect trading partner for a team looking to move up. Enter the Jazz.

In addition to the No. 6 pick, Utah also had the 27th pick thanks to a draft-night deal the previous season with Dallas.

Armed with assets, hours before the start of the 2005 draft the Jazz sent No. 6, No. 27 and a future first-round pick to the Blazers for the No. 3 pick. The caveat here – as it will later pertain to the Bulls – is that the future first was actually Detroit’s first-round pick in 2006; the Jazz had traded point guard Carlos Arroyo to the Pistons for a first-round pick, which was widely expected to be near the end of the first round. Detroit went 64-18 in ’05-06 and the pick wound up being No. 30; Utah kept its own pick in 2006, which wound up being No. 14.

That was the cost. Three first-round picks, though admittedly No. 27 and the contending Pistons’ pick weren’t oozing with value. Utah selected Williams over Paul, Portland got Martell Webster at No. 6 and used the other two picks on Linas Kleiza and a year later Joel Freeland.

How does this affect the Bulls? They’re in a similar situation as Utah…kind of. The Jazz had missed the playoffs each of the previous two seasons post-Stockton but felt they were turning a corner with 23-year-olds Carlos Boozer and Andrei Kirilenko leading the way. In fact, their eight leading scorers from the previous season were 28 or younger. They were on the right path if they could find a point guard to play with Boozer, Kirilenko, Matt Harpring, Mehmet Okur and Raja Bell.

The Bulls aren’t exactly one specific piece away like Utah clearly was – they’d miss the playoffs the following year but then win between 48 and 54 games each of the next four seasons after. But they could be targeting someone specific in the top 4 of the draft. And they just so happen to have assets, and just so happen to have two teams reportedly willing to move back in a deep class.

Memphis reportedly would like to move back, and if possible add Chandler Parsons’ absurd contract to a deal. This seems like a plausible idea at face value, but the Grizzlies are going to want something substantial in return. They tanked hard – Marc Gasol “rested” eight games after the All-Star break, with Memphis losing all eight of those – for a reason, and they aren’t going to attach their main asset to a deal just to get rid of Parsons’ remaining $49 million. Freeing up cap space is nice, but at what cost? Memphis isn’t in a positon to win now. True, they’d like to try and contend with Gasol (two years left) and Mike Conley (three years left) but attaching the 4th pick to Parsons is different from the Raptors attaching two picks to DeMarre Carroll in a trade with Brooklyn last year; that Raptors pick wound up being No. 29, as the Raptors knew they’d be contending.

The Bulls might entertain a deal of the Nos. 7 and 22 picks for No. 4 and Parsons. If Parsons weren’t included in the deal, it could still get done if Bobby Portis were added. The Bulls love Portis, but he’ll need a significant contract extension in 13 months and Lauri Markkanen has the power forward position on lockdown.

The Hawks are also a potential trade option. They reportedly are looking to move down and still be able to draft Trae Young, who could supplant a disgruntled Dennis Schroder at the point. Again, a package of the Nos. 7 and 22 picks plus Portis could be enough to get the deal done; Atlanta drafted forward John Collins a year ago but he doesn’t offer much as a pick-and-pop power forward. Portis would give them a solid complement. Then again, Atlanta couldn’t be sure Young would be available at 7, especially considering Orlando is picking No. 6 and has a serious need at the point.

Who would the Bulls be targeting at No. 3 or No. 4? Rumors are everywhere so it’s difficult to pinpoint. Michael Porter Jr. could now go as high as No. 2 to the Sacramento. That would mean international sensation Luka Doncic falls. Marvin Bagley’s name has been quiet for a while, while Jaren Jackson Jr. is having “monster workouts” that have him flying up draft boards. We won’t speculate.

For now just know that trading in to the top 5 is difficult. You need the assets to do it (check), a team with enough talent that moving up will push the franchise forward (check), a willing trade partner (check) and a player you really want (check?). The pieces are there for a potential move-up, but actually pulling the trigger is far more difficult than just writing about it.