Already dealing with enough Cubs problems, Joe Maddon insists no ‘ill will’ toward Rays

Already dealing with enough Cubs problems, Joe Maddon insists no ‘ill will’ toward Rays

The lead sentence in a Tampa Bay Times story previewing this Cubs-Rays series mentioned how the Joe Maddon photos have been erased from Tropicana Field.

Radiating positivity to his players, distracting the media with zoo animals and dress-up trips and translating for a data-heavy front office, the force of Maddon’s personality helped turn the Rays into a small-market miracle. 

Winning at least 90 games five times – as well as the 2008 American League pennant – apparently wasn’t enough to preserve the images of a star manager. 

“Oh, really?” Maddon said before Tuesday’s 6-5 loss at Wrigley Field. “I don’t blame them, seriously. No, I don’t think it’s awkward at all. There’s new people in place. Then you have to put the new folks – whoever they are at that time – (up) on the walls. Now I’m not ready for that black-and-white photo – that iconic photo – that’s placed in a hallway next to a trophy. I don’t think I’m that guy.

“Otherwise, I have no ill will whatsoever. Personally, I prefer when my picture’s not displayed somewhere, especially in post offices. 

“You cannot walk away from that one. So, no, it doesn’t bother me in the least.”   

Nothing seems to bother Maddon. While that upbeat attitude and breezy confidence clicked with the 2015 Cubs during a transitional year that led to 97 wins and the National League Championship Series, it doesn’t seem to be working that well with the defending champs. Strengths – stubborn beliefs in players and decisions and a laissez-faire attitude toward the clubhouse – can slowly turn into potential weaknesses.  

Where Maddon just about reached his shelf life with the Rays after nine seasons, he listened to rounds and rounds of Game 7 strategy questions and second-guessing, months and months after the Cubs won their first World Series title in 108 years.  

Two-and-a-half seasons into a contract that will pay him in the neighborhood of $28 million, team president Theo Epstein implicitly criticized Maddon while explaining the decision to DFA veteran catcher Miguel Montero last week, saying things like: “Wins don’t just happen because you’re talented and you show up.” 

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Where Epstein ominously called out the lack of “edge” in the 2017 Cubs – “You can be kind of striving for an identity or a chemistry all year and not find it” – Maddon points to injuries and how the team has hung around .500, stayed in the division race and gotten in position to make a post-Fourth of July push.   

“I’m one of those guys that believe you create chemistry and then it turns into wins,” Maddon said. “Other people believe you have to have wins to turn into chemistry. I always believed that you mock what you don’t understand. 

“Being with the Rays for several years, the winning wasn’t there, so you had to create something other than that in order to have the winning be the residue. I’m a big believer in that. 

“How do you do it? I’ve talked about it a zillion times. It’s about relationship-building and trust first. And then you got to have the guys in the room being aligned with your belief system organizationally. And then you have to have people that are kind of fearless within the clubhouse, guys that are purely Stage 5 players that are trying to win and not just there to try to survive. 

“All those things matter. (But) you can intentionally attempt to create that kind of momentum in your clubhouse by how you react, manager’s office, coaches’ room, et cetera.” 

The Rays reacted by pushing Major League Baseball to launch a tampering investigation after Maddon used the escape clause in his contract that triggered when Andrew Friedman left to run baseball operations for the Los Angeles Dodgers after the 2014 season.

Except for bench coach Dave Martinez, none of Maddon’s coaches followed him to Chicago. Neither did David Price, Tampa Bay’s homegrown Cy Young Award winner, who followed the money as a free agent and took $217 million guaranteed from the Boston Red Sox.

The Rays did what all teams looking for a correction do, hiring a young, low-key manager with the opposite personality (though it’s not like there are many Maddon clones out there). Kevin Cash oversaw an 80-82 campaign in 2015, last year’s 94-loss, last-place season and a 44-41 run before the All-Star break.  

“I’m just curious to see where they’re at right now,” Maddon said. “More than anything, it’s just about saying hi to people. I swear that’s probably my most pressing need right now – just to make sure I connect with these guys.”

Cubs aiming to finalize coaching staff this week

Cubs aiming to finalize coaching staff this week

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. — If fans are feeling impatient waiting for the Cubs coaching staff to be finalized, the front office feels their anxiety.

Jed Hoyer said Tuesday afternoon at the MLB GM Meetings the Cubs hope to settle their coaching staff before the week is up, putting an end to what he joked has been a six-week human resources process.

Theo Epstein confirmed Monday Will Venable will be back as a base coach for the Cubs in 2020, though which base is not yet certain. Venable who interviewed for the managerial vacancy this fall, spent 2019 as the first-base coach for the Cubs, but also filled in at third base early in the season when incumbent Brian Butterfield dealt with vertigo. 

In addition to Joe Maddon, Mark Loretta (bench coach), Butterfield (third-base coach), Lester Strode (bullpen coach) and Chris Denorfia (quality assurance coach) are also out.

That leaves the coaching staff as follows:

Manager — David Ross
Bench coach — Andy Green
Pitching coach — Tommy Hottovy
Associate pitching coach, catching and strategy coach — Mike Borzello
Hitting coach — Anthony Iapoce
Assistant hitting coach — Terrmel Sledge
Bullpen coach — Chris Young
Base coach — Will Venable
Base coach — open
Quality assurance coach — open

It's actually been longer than six weeks since the Cubs informed Maddon they intended to move on from the World Series-winning manager, but it hasn't even been three weeks since the Cubs officially hired David Ross as the replacement. 

But the offseason is fully in gear now and the Cubs would like to turn their full attention to the roster.

"We'd love to get [the coaching staff] done by the end of the week," Hoyer said. "I don't know if that's realistic or not, but that'd be a great goal. We're starting to put together some meetings and stuff with those guys coming to Chicago, so it's not like we're not moving forward with stuff. But I do feel like it's time to have that locked down."

Ross has obviously had a say in the new additions to the staff, going through what Hoyer called a "crash course" in interviewing and hiring coaches. Ross doesn't have much experience working with Green — the most important of the new hires — but he has worked closely with Hottovy and Borzello in the past from his days as a player. He's also been around those guys and the other holdovers on the coaching staff while serving as a special assistant in the front office the last three seasons.

Still, Hoyer said the Cubs are cognizant of Ross' need to have somebody on the coaching staff he trusts. 

"You want guys to fill certain roles on your staff — coaching, strategy, etc." Hoyer said. "But there's also a camaraderie you want to create. There's a relationship with the manager that you want to give that manager. It's a really hard and lonely job at times. 

"Having someone on that staff that you trust that you've known from the past that you can vent to or grab a beer with or grab breakfast with and talk about it, I think that's really important."

Once the final two spots on the coaching staff are finalized, Ross can also turn his attention to pressing matters like immersing himself in the Cubs' behind-the-scenes processes with the research and development staff and the rest of the front office.

Ross has some knowledge of that from his front office work over the last three years, but he also was enjoying time in retirement with his family in addition to his duties as an MLB analyst/broadcaster for ESPN.

"The best way he can hit the ground running is just become really familiar with all of the stuff that we do in the office even beyond what he's already done," Hoyer said. "Using it as a great learning winter for spring training, it's really important from an organization standpoint and a message standpoint. I know he wants to hit the ground running and the best way to do that is to be in the office as much as possible to be able to map out spring training."

What Scott Harris' departure means for Cubs


What Scott Harris' departure means for Cubs

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. — Even before the offseason started, the Cubs knew this was going to be a winter of change behind the scenes — on the coaching staff, in player development and scouting and in the big-league front office.

One change they weren't necessarily anticipating was losing Scott Harris to the San Francisco Giants.

Harris had spent the last seven years with the Cubs, working up to an assistant GM role and emerging as one of the most trusted voices in the front office under Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer. The Giants officially introduced Harris as their new GM Monday, leaving the Cubs with even more turmoil to address this winter.

In September, the Cubs had already moved Jason McLeod over to the big-league front office from his previous role as vice president of amateur scouting and player development, but McLeod won't be an exact replacement for Harris. Instead, the Cubs will spread Harris' responsibilities around — at least in the short term — and allow younger internal options an opportunity to step up and earn expanded roles.

"We're thrilled for Scott," Epstein said. "It was an opportunity he couldn't turn down — a No. 2 of another storied franchise in his hometown; it was just too good to be true. We're thrilled for him, but it was bittersweet. We loved working with him and he was a big part of our culture and guys around the major-league team love working with him. 

"It will leave a pretty significant void that we'll have to fill. We'll distribute a lot of his responsibilities around to a few different people internally and reevaluate as we continue to look outside, if there happens to be the right fit outside the organization, too."

It won't be easy for the Cubs to replace Harris, as they viewed him internally as a potential GM down the road. At the moment, he was a valued and trusted voice inside the front office at a critical time in the organization as they work to set themselves up for the future beyond their current window of contention that is set to close after the 2021 season.

"He's got incredible work ethic," Epstein said. "He's got significant intellectual capacity, but he's very down to earth, fun to be around. He doesn't tell you how smart he is. He's one of the guys everyone loves going to to share things and pick their brain. He's got good feel managing up, managing down, managing laterally, good feel with the players and uniform personnel. He'll do a really good job over there."

Now the Cubs will have to move on, though they're not in any rush to do so. 

After announcing a host of moves as part of their internal shake-up last month, the Cubs are still looking to hire a scouting director from outside the organization. Epstein confirmed they have interviewed close to 10 candidates and the Cubs are "reaching the final innings" in that process.

The same way they search for the next star player, the Cubs are also searching for the next front office star — the next Scott Harris, if you will.

"Anytime you have the opportunity to fill a spot — and there is some real turnover in our organization this year — I think you're always looking for somebody with potential to impact years down the line beyond the scope of responsibility you're hiring for," Epstein said. "This gives us anther big bullet to fire in our hiring, but we might not necessarily rush out and do it right away. 

"We have a lot of qualified people internally, too, who might take off with new responsibilities, so we'll see. We'll weigh that, but we are definitely looking outside. Same with scouting director — we're looking for an impact hire in that role." 

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