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Williams, Guillen or a deferral of decision-making?

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Williams, Guillen or a deferral of decision-making?

Thursday, Sept. 15, 2011
Posted: 12:14 p.m.

By Brett Ballantini
CSNChicago.com White Sox InsiderFollow @CSNChi_Beatnik
Generals and majors, they're never too far from battlefields so glorious.Out in a world of their own, they'll never come down till once again victorious.Generals and majors always seem so unhappy 'less they got a war.Generals and majors like never before are tired of being actionless.
--Colin Moulding, General and Majors

The 2011 White Sox season has been jammed with contradictions, the latest being the curious demands of manager Ozzie Guillen with regard to his future in Chicago.

For a month now, Guillen has ben pussyfooting over the idea that he deserves more clarity on his future than having a contract for the 2012 season accords. Putting aside the fact that Ozzie has done nothing in 2011 to merit such consideration, hes not even terribly consistent with the demand itself.

It undercuts the urgency of his request when Guillen proves willing, as he said on Tuesday, that immediately after the season he would head with wife Ibis to Spain to watch the end of the bullfighting season in Madrid. So eager is he to see bullfighting -- as he was a year ago, when the White Sox also wrapped up their season sans playoffs -- that he is willing to take his lame duck status overseas with him and address his future upon return.

Doesnt sound all that urgent now, does it?

The season is coming to a very deflating end, and there will be fall guys. Papa Jerry could opt to clean house, disgusted with how his club, All-In, has eluded expectations. But for a family guy like Chairman Reinsdorf, such a clear-cutting is unlikely. But he will be forced to choose between favorite sons Guillen and GM Ken Williams. Or will he?

With the White Sox shaping up to be lucky to finish .500 -- a fair 10 games or so worse than many preseason predictions had them -- both Guillen and Williams have underperformed, to such a degree to warrant firing.

But I am beginning to believe that against all odds, both men may be back for a possible final hurrah in 2012.

Williams will not be fired, and taking into account his full body of work, he doesnt deserve to be. If Guillen is taken at his managerial height, he deserves one more chance as well. But it will fall to Reinsdorf to make the final decision, and this year more than ever, its not an easy one.

What are the cases for and against the retention of both men?

Williams Pros

His track record of turning cans into can-do with a series of smart moves, somehow accomplished without even a smidge of Moneyball magic, is solid: Esteban Loaiza, Jose Contreras, John Danks, Gavin Floyd and Matt Thornton among others have come to the White Sox at virtually no cost.

Even in a season where marred by poor personnel decisions, Williams still managed to pluck Phil Humber off of waivers, and all the much-traveled starter has done for the White Sox is post the top average game score of the entire starting staff.

He has stayed out of the personal fray with the Guillen family that marred the 2010 season and infected the White Sox clubhouse.

Williams Cons

His golden touch -- finding diamonds in the rough and making short dollars stretch -- is tarnishing. Dating back to 2008, when he traded for Nick Swisher, then flipped him infamously to the Yankees, cost him prime starter Gio Gonzalez and a season of clubhouse discord courtesy of Dirty 30, who pouted his way into Chicagos last postseason berth. More recently, his All-In approach, a catch phrase he himself coined upon the re-signing of Paul Konerko, has turned into a colossal failure, particularly with the high-stakes waiver claim of Alex Rios and the signing of Adam Dunn.

Dunns acquisition speaks to another weakness of Williams, his love affair with players often past their prime. In the case of Dunn, he dealt Daniel Hudson -- who had faltered briefly with the White Sox but is now leading the Arizona Diamondbacks into the postseason -- in part to put together a package for Dunn, then a first sacker for the Washington Nationals.

At times, the GM has been too absent. Last season, as Ozzie started to crab about his future -- asking that he wanted to know where he stood with the team but denying he wanted the long-term deal he now seems to have settled on -- with the White Sox on the road in Oakland a season ago, Williams should have swooped in to stem the momentum. This season, as controversy began to rage over the whether Dayan Viciedo should be called up, Williams deferred to Guillen despite heavy suspicions he would rather have fielded his 25 best players, regardless of salary or contract. Even in the case of Dunns appendectomy, from which the slugger rushed back and possibly precipitated his seasonlong slump.

Hot GM candidate Rick Hahn -- who as an assistant Williams fully appreciates the wisdom of -- is getting closer and closer to a GM job of his own. Unless theres a DEFCON 1 plan saying if and when Hahn is offered a GM job outright, Williams kicks upstairs and hands over the primary reins, Hahns future complicates that of Williams.

Ozzie pros

He has the backing of his team -- for the most part. He is sensitive to player needs and is almost always willing to take the heat instead of dumping additional media questions and pressures on players.

As a manager, he pulls enormous interest to the White Sox, some of it even positive attention.

He bleeds White Sox black.

For all the rightful criticism of Guillens managing, hes proven fairly innovative in juggling his bullpen, choosing appearances occasionally by leverage vs. strict lefty-righty or setup-closer assignments.

Ozzie cons

Evidenced by recently stumping for a long-term deal despite his team being a game over .500 and hugely disappointing, Guillen is coming across as uncharacteristically selfish. His denial that another round of three-ring nonsense over his future would affect his clubhouse -- when Guillen was the first to admit shame over letting the Kenny-Ozzie troubles trickle into the clubhouse in 2010 -- is disingenuous at best.

In big-picture strategy, Guillens inability to supply a single thing he would do differently in 2011 simply sets the White Sox up for similar failures. The manager has given himself low marks -- Z for zero or Zorro, XXX for adults only -- but is unable to suggest a single thing he might do differently if presented with the same roster shortcomings next season.

Guillens lineup management has been atrocious. Long before Williams was finally forced to issue a get out of jail free card to Guillen and tell his manager to field players based on merit or promise, not salary, Guillen continued to supply a steady diet of Dunn and Rios into the lineup, sometimes still batting back-to-back and in the middle of the order. Theres old-school faith, and then theres lunacy, and in 2011 Guillen has too often managed in a style that might at best be called reckless, at worst, unconscious.

Guillens game strategy -- neither his strongest suit nor his weakest in the past -- has been as white-flagged as weve ever seen. Failing to pinch-hit for Omar Vizquel with two outs in the ninth? Leaving Dunn in vs. a lefty, and again pointing to salary as a reason to avoid the decision? Too many indications abound that Guillen has given up on the season, when his modus operandi is to not surrender even with just a single breath left.

Both Williams and Guillen have been curiously asleep at the wheel this season. With a payroll approaching 130 million and proven vets by the bushel, too little was the smarter move than too much tinkering. But in Ozzies eyes, any tinkering this season has proved to be too much, and Williams seemed too eager to sit back and watch it play out. For two guys who bleed for the White Sox and grew up together in the organization to sit on their hands in a pivotal season in franchise history is not just disappointing, but baffling.

But again, the White Sox are for better or worse a family. You can bet they dont let Ozzie traipse off to Madrid without having a clear commitment from him, and making a direct one to him. Guillen is under contract for 2012 and the Pale Hose will expect him to fulfill that commitment with bells on. Its imaginable that some changes are forced onto Ozzie -- the replacement of hitting coach Greg Walker, possibly even the loss of bench coach Joey Cora -- either as a move that forces his hand or brings the team more under executive control.

Williams has every right to be ticked off that his former teammate, who he granted an extension after a horrid 2007 season, a leap of faith if ever there was one, is back stumping for more years and more commitment. And Williams has every reason to look over his shoulder as losses mount and money is lost. Guillen can shake his fist back upstairs for being saddled with undermotivated and underachieving players.

If there is a choice, Williams will be safe -- every opportunity Reinsdorf has had to choose between coaches and GMs in his past (including the Bulls) indicates that the tie goes to the executive suite.

But there wont be a choice made. Reinsdorf will deal not ultimatums but urgency -- everyone, including the White Sox roster -- is getting older. Win now, whatever it takes. Otherwise, the housecleaning that was warranted in 2012 will come in 2013.

Brett Ballantini is CSNChicago.com's White Sox Insider. Follow him @CSNChi_Beatnik on Twitter for up-to-the-minute Sox information.

White Sox Talk Podcast: Memories of Old Comiskey Park

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White Sox Talk Podcast: Memories of Old Comiskey Park

For many White Sox fans, Comiskey Park was their introduction to White Sox baseball when they were young. Chuck Garfien, Ryan McGuffey, and Chris Kamka share their memories of the old ballpark. Among them: Chuck talks about seeing Al Cowens charge Ed Farmer on the mound in 1980 creating a bench clearing brawl, Ryan tells the story about catching a Mike Greenwell foul ball, Chuck talks about being there for the 1983 All-Star Game, they discuss the final game ever played there and read favorite memories sent in by White Sox fans.

You can listen to the whole thing right here, or in the embedded player below.

8:26 - Chuck talks about seeing Al Cowens charge Ed Farmer on the mound in 1980 creating a bench clearing brawl.

10:11 - Ryan tells the story about catching a Mike Greenwell foul ball.

12:49 - Chuck talks about being there for the 1983 All-Star Game

15:11 - The guys talk about the final game ever played there.

16:44 - The guys read favorite memories sent in by White Sox fans.

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'White Sox to the Letter'

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'White Sox to the Letter'

Inspired by Ogden Nash’s 1949 poem “A Lineup for Yesterday”

 

A is for A.J.

Once punched in the face

If strike three ain’t caught

He’ll steal first base

 

B is for Baines

Who’s known to speak gently

When asked if he’ll homer

He said, “Evidently!”

 

C for Comiskey

The old baseball yard

When it was torn down

I took it quite hard

 

D is for Donkey

I mean Adam Dunn

He’d strike out or walk

Or hit a home run

 

E is for Eloy

He isn’t here yet

Though an All-Star career

Is still a good bet

 

F is for Fisk

The incomparable Pudge

From his perch behind home

Not an inch he would budge

 

G is for Gold

G is for Glove

Aparicio is

Who I’m thinking of

 

H is for Hawk

Unforgettable voice

Stretch! Dadgummit!

And don’t stop now boys!

 

I for Iguchi

Second base man

Won World Series

Returned to Japan

 

J is for Jackson

The legend still grows

A home run or touchdown

Only Bo knows

 

K is for Kopech

Speed, he has plenty

He’ll pile up strikeouts

In two thousand twenty

 

L is for Luke

Old Aches and Pains

Hit .388

That record remains

 

M is for Mark

As in Mister Buehrle

When he takes the mound

The game will end early

 

N is for no-no

Wilson Alvarez, Humber

Two by Mark Buehrle

Too many to number

 

O for Orestes

Miñoso’s real name

Not in the Hall

And that’s a real shame

 

P is for Paulie

He gave it his all

At the championship rally

Gave Jerry the ball

 

Q for Quintana

Kept coming up short

Only because

Of no run support

 

R is for Richie

But please call him Dick

A dangerous man

When he’s swinging the stick

 

S is for shoes

Which were not worn by Joe

In 1919

Please say it ain’t so

 

T is for Thomas

Amazing career

He went to the Hall

And brewed Big Hurt Beer

 

U for Uribe

He played everywhere

When the ball left his bat

Hands waved in the air

 

V is for Veeck

He knew how to sell

Fireworks, promotions

And Eddie Gaedel

 

W is for William

Or Bill; He was Beltin’

So hot was the corner

Third baseman was Melton

 

X is for Fox

At least the last letter

Among second basemen

Nobody was better

 

Y is for Yolmer

He has sneaky power

The master of giving

A Gatorade shower

 

Z is for Zisk

And others I missed

Unable to fit

In my White Sox list