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The Eagles all-time team: Seth Joyner takes top OLB spot

The Eagles all-time team: Seth Joyner takes top OLB spot

Throughout July, we’re unveiling our all-time Eagles team. 

We enlisted the help of Eagles reporters Reuben Frank and Dave Zangaro, Quick Slants hosts Derrick Gunn and Barrett Brooks and Quick Slants producer Mike Mulhern to handle the voting. 

Each voter ranked his top five players at 16 different positions. A first-place vote was worth five points, a second-place vote was worth four, and so on. 

Up today: Outside linebackers

Complete voting:

1. Seth Joyner = 25
2. William Thomas = 18
3. Maxie Baughan = 11
4. Connor Barwin = 5
4. Carlos Emmons = 5  
6. John Bunting = 4
6. Frank LeMaster = 4

The breakdown: Seth Joyner, like long-time teammate Reggie White, is a unanimous choice for the top spot, and William Thomas is next, with three second-place votes and two third-place votes. Maxie Baughan got the two other second-place votes and a third-place vote but wasn’t listed at all on two ballots. John Bunting and Carlos Emmons got the two other third-place votes.

Did we get it right? Joyner was the greatest outside linebacker of his generation and should be a Hall of Famer, so he’s definitely in the right place. Willie T. was a very good player, but Maxie Baughan was a nine-time Pro Bowler and two-time All-Pro, with five of those Pro Bowls coming with the Eagles and four with the Rams. Hall of Famer Chuck Bednarik is the only linebacker in franchise history who made more Pro Bowls than Baughan. Willie T. was a very productive pure outside linebacker who finished his career with 37 sacks and 27 interceptions (33 and 18 as an Eagle) and made two Pro Bowls. But Baughan should have been second.

Complete team: 

QB: Donovan McNabb 
RB: LeSean McCoy 
WR: Harold Carmichael 
WR: Mike Quick
WR: Tommy McDonald
TE: Zach Ertz 
OT: Jason Peters
OT: Lane Johnson 
OG: Brandon Brooks 
OG: Bucko Kilroy 
C: Jason Kelce 

DT: Fletcher Cox
DT: Jerome Brown

DE: Reggie White
DE: Clyde Simmons

ILB: Chuck Bednarik 
OLB: Seth Joyner 
OLB: William Thomas 

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The greatest seasons by Eagles 23 and under

The greatest seasons by Eagles 23 and under

On Wednesday, inspired by Jason Peters’ return to the Eagles at 38 years old, we posted the top 10 seasons in Eagles history by players over 35.

Researching the oldest players to star for the Eagles of course led us to start thinking about the youngest.

Here are the 10-youngest players in Eagles history to start a game, according to Pro Football Reference:

21 years, 63 days: LeSean McCoy, Sept. 13, 2009, at Panthers 
21 years, 125 days: Jeremy Maclin, Sept. 13, 2009, at Panthers 
21 years, 185 days: Joe Scarpati, Sept. 13, 1964 vs. Giants
21 years, 196 days: Bryce Brown, Nov. 26, 2012, vs. Panthers
21 years, 199 days: Neill Armstrong, Sept. 28, 1947, vs. Redskins
21 years, 261 days: Ernie Calloway, Sept. 21, 1969, vs. Browns
21 years, 280 days: Victor Abiamiri, Oct. 21, 2007, vs. Bears
21 years, 285 days: Jack Concannon, Dec. 6, 1964, vs. Cowboys
22 years, 23 days: Josh Adams, Nov. 18, 2018, vs. Saints
22 years, 113 days Nelson Agholor, Sept. 14, 2015, at Falcons

And here are the top-10 seasons in Eagles history by players 23 or younger (plus a couple more we couldn’t leave out).

1. Keith Jackson, TE, 1988

Jackson had one of the greatest rookie seasons in NFL history at 23 when he caught 81 passes for 869 yards and 6 TDs, making all-pro and the Pro Bowl. He still holds the NFL record for most catches by a rookie tight end and is the youngest all-pro in Eagles history.

2. Ben Hawkins, WR, 1967

In his second NFL season at the age of 23, Hawkins led the NFL with 1,265 receiving yards on 59 catches, including 10 TDs. That’s still 5th-most yards in Eagles history. Hawkins’ 1,265 yards were the most in NFL history by a WR 23 or younger until Mark Clayton had 1,389 some 17 years later.

3. Harold Jackson, WR, 1969

In his first year with the Eagles, the 23-year-old Jackson led the NFL with 1,116 receiving yards and had 9 touchdowns. Jackson, Ben Hawkins and DeSean Jackson are the only Eagles with 1,000 yards in a season before their 24th birthday.

4. DeSean Jackson, WR, 2009

D-Jack had a very good rookie year in 2008, but he had a historic season at 23 in 2009, with 1,156 receiving yards, 1,293 scrimmage yards, 9 TD catches, two punt return TDs. He’s one of only four players in NFL history with 1,000 receving yards and 2 punt return TDs in the same season.

5. Lito Sheppard, CB, 2004 

Lito was in his third year but still only 23 when he had five INTs, including two TD returns, and made his first Pro Bowl and 1st-team all-pro on the Super Bowl team.

6. LeSean McCoy, RB, 2010

Because he was 21 when he was drafted, Shady was still only 23 when he had his big 2011 season, with 1,080 rushing yards, 1,672 scrimmage yards, 48 catches and 17 touchdowns. That made him the 3rd-youngest 1st-team all-pro in Eagles history after tight ends Charle Young and Keith Jackson.

7. Tom Brookshier, DB, 1953

As a 22-year-old rookie in 1953, Brookie had 8 interceptions, which remains tied for the Eagles rookie record. He spent the next two years in the Air Force before returning to the Eagles, making two Pro Bowls and an all-pro team and starting on the 1960 NFL Championship team.

8. Jeremiah Trotter, 2000

Trott had a real breakthrough season in 2000, making all-pro and the Pro Bowl for the first time at the age of 23. He was the first linebacker to make 1st-team all-pro at 23 or younger since Junior Seau eight years earlier.

9. Maxie Baughan, LB, 1960 and 1961

Baugham starred on the 1960 NFL Championship team as a rookie and made the Pro Bowl as a 22-year-old in 1960 and a 23-year-old in 1961, making him one of only three Eagles to make two Pro Bowls before his 24th birthday. 

10. Seth Joyner, LB, 1987

Joyner was 23 when he became a full-time starter in 1987, and in the strike-shortened season he had 4 sacks, 2 INTs, 2 forced fumbles and 2 fumble recoveries. He didn’t make a Pro Bowl for four more years, but he should have in 1987.

5 Honorable Mentions

Jeremy Maclin, WR, 2010

Maclin had 773 yards as a 22-year-old rookie in 2009, but the next year he had 70 catches for 964 yards and was 7th in the league with 10 TD catches. 

Cody Parkey, PK, 2014

Four years before Double Doink, a 22-year-old Parkey set an NFL rookie scoring record that still stands with 150 points, which also remains the most points ever scored by someone 22 or 23 years old. He made 32 of 36 field goals for 89 percent.

Mychal Kendricks, LB, 2013

Kendricks should have made the Pro Bowl in 2013, when he had 3 interceptions, 4 sacks, 4 fumble recoveries and 2 forced fumbles. He’s one of only nine players in NFL history to reach those milestones at 23 years old or younger.

Bibbles Bawel, DB, 1952

His real name first name was Edward Raymond Bawel and his last name was pronounced “Bobble.” He made the Eagles as a 23-year-old undrafted rookie in 1952 and had eight interceptions – tied with Tom Landry for 4th-most in the NFL in 1952 - before his career was interrupted by two years in the Army. He returned in 1955 and had 9 interceptions, 2nd-most in Eagles history.

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'Broken from top to bottom:' Seth Joyner and Barrett Brooks torch Eagles for pathetic loss to Dolphins

'Broken from top to bottom:' Seth Joyner and Barrett Brooks torch Eagles for pathetic loss to Dolphins

Philadelphia fans tuned in to Eagles Postgame Live on Sunday evening expecting to see an animated and angry Seth Joyner rip apart the Birds for their pathetic showing down in Miami in a 37-31 loss to the Dolphins.

What we were treated to was almost worse.

Resignation.

"I'm calm today," Joyner said. "Even-keeled. My emotions are in check because my expectations are nothing any longer for this football team. They're broken. They're flawed from top to bottom. They've been broken and flawed since training camp started and the decision was made to hold everybody out and get everybody ready. Nonsense."

"Things are the way they are because they didn't respect Ryan Fitzpatrick."

The anger on the postgame show was not absent however. Former offensive lineman Barrett Brooks brought plenty of it on Sunday.

He called the Eagles' decision to abandon the run against the poor Dolphins' run defense a "travesty."

Doug Pederson gave the Dolphins credit in his postgame gaggle with the media, calling Miami a good team following the loss.

Brooks wasn't having it.

"There's no way the Miami Dolphins were a good football team. You got your ass kicked by a bad football team," Brooks said of Pederson's Eagles. "They have nothing over there in Miami. They traded it all for draft picks."

"There has to be accountability," Joyner added. "Doug can't continually talk about discipline and the mistakes they made. Players only fix their deficiencies because you hold them accountable. I'm not saying he needs to blast his players but there's no anger, there's no being upset about the product you and your players put out on the field."

For more on the incredibly bad loss in Miami check out our report card and observations.



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