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2018 MLB Trade Deadline Tracker: Rumors, news, deals and signings

The 2018 MLB Trade Deadline is rapidly approaching, marking the last day of the season teams can exchange players without them having to clear waivers first.

July 31, and the days leading up to the 4:00 p.m. deadline on Tuesday are some of the most exciting of the season, as the entire complexion of the MLB can change with one groundbreaking move. Players can still be traded after the July 31 deadline, but they must first clear waivers.

With time winding down until the deadline hits, trade rumors are flying everywhere and teams are engaging in preliminary talks about making deals.

Last updated: July 31, 3:50 p.m.

2018 MLB TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER:

Trades, rumors, news and notes

July 31: TRADE — The Los Angeles Dodgers reportedly have a deal in place for Toronto Blue Jays' RHP John Axford, per Ben Nicholson-Smith.

July 31: TRADE — The Arizona Diamondbacks will acquire LHP Jake Diekman from the Texas Rangers, per Jon Heyman.

July 31: TRADE — The Pittsburgh Pirates will acquire RHP Chris Archer from the Tampa Bay Rays for OF Austin Meadows, RHP Tyler Glasnow and a third player, per Joel Sherman.

July 31: TRADE — The Los Angeles Dodgers have acquired 2B Brian Dozier from the Minnesota Twins for INF Logan Forsythe, 1B/OF Luke Raley and LHP Devin Smeltzer, per Joel Sherman

July 31: TRADE — The Philadelphia Phillies have agreed on a deal with the Toronto Blue Jays for LHP Aaron Loup. The Blue Jays will receive RHP Jacob Waguespack, per Mark Feinsand.

July 31: TRADE — The Atlanta Braves will acquire RHP Kevin Gausman from the Baltimore Orioles, according to Jon Heyman.

July 31: TRADE — The Washington Nationals will send RHP Brandon Kintzler to the Chicago Cubs, according to Jon Morosi. The Nats will receive RHP Jhon Romero.

July 31: REPORT — The Chicago Cubs are nearing a trade for Washington Nationals' RHP Brandon Kintzler, per Ken Rosenthal.

July 31: REPORT — A Chris Archer trade remains likely, per Joel Sherman. The Atlanta Braves, Pittsburgh Pirates and Milwaukee Brewers are the likely suitors. 

July 31: TRADE — The Philadelphia Phillies have acquired Tampa Bay Rays' C Wilson Ramos, per Mark Feinsand. The Rays will receive a PTBNL.

July 31: TRADE — The Seattle Mariners will acquire OF Cameron Maybin from the Miami Marlins, per Ryan Divish. The Marlins will reportedly receive a player and international spending money.

July 31: REPORT — The Phiadelphia Philies are deep in talks with the Tampa Bay Rays over C Wilson Ramos, per Jeff Passan

July 31: TRADE — The Arizona Diamondbacks will acquire RHP Brad Ziegler, according to Ken Rosenthal. The Miami Marlins will receive RHP Tommy Eveld, per Nick Piecoro.

July 31: TRADE — The Cleveland Indians have acquired OF Leonys Martin from the Detroit Tigers for 2B/SS Willi Castro, according to Robert Murray

July 31: REPORT — The Washington Nationals will not only keep Bryce Harper, but GM Mike Rizzo told Bob Nightengale that Gio Gonzalez and the team's bullpen will likely stay put.

July 31: REPORT — The Milwaukee Brewers are pursuing Washington Nationals LHP Gio Gonzalez, according to Ken Rosenthal

July 31: TRADE — The St. Louis Cardinals are sending OF Tommy Pham to the Tampa Bay Rays, according to Jeff Passan. The Cardinals will receive OF Justin Williams, LHP Genesis Cabrera and RHP Roel Ramirez, per Marc Topkin

July 31: REPORT Bryce Harper will reportedly not be traded, Nationals GM Mike Rizzo told Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post.

July 31: REPORT — The Washington Nationals had deals "lined up" for multuple players, including Bryce Harper. But at least one team believes Nats ownership pulled the plug late last night, according to Jorge Castillo

July 31: REPORT — The belief around Washington Nationals officials is that the team will stand pat at the trade deadline, per Ken Rosenthal. If there is a move, a free-agent reliever being traded is the likely option. 

July 31: REPORT — The New York Yankees, Philadelphia Phillies and Cleveland Indians are interested in OF Andrew McCutchen, per Jon Morosi

July 31: REPORT — It seems unlikely that the Washington Nationals move OF Bryce Harper, though Jon Heyman says rivals believe the Philadelphia Phillies are best suitors for the star. 

July 31: TRADE  The Pittsburgh Pirates have traded for the Texas Rangers' right handed closer Keone Kela, first reported by Jeff Passan.

July 30: TRADE — Second baseman Ian Kinsler is heading to the Boston Red Sox and was first reported by Ken Rosenthal. In return the Los Angeles Angels received two prospects.

July 30: TRADE — The Atlanta Braves have acquired utility man Adam Duvall according to C. Trent Rosecrans. The Cincinnati Reds get HP Lucas Sims, RHP Matt Wisler, and OF Preston Tucker in return.

July 30: REPORT   Bryce Harper is reportedly on the training block for the Washington Nationals. The Cleveland Indians and the Los Angeles Dodgers are the teams that have been in contact.

July 30: TRADE — The New York Yanees will acquire RHP Lance Lynn from the Minnesota Twins for RHP Luis Rijo and 1B/OF Tyler Austin, according to Jon Heyman. The Twins will cover half of Lynn's remaining salary.

July 30: TRADE — The New York Yankees will receive $1.25 M in international spending money from the Seattle Mariners for RHP Adam Warren, according to Joel Sherman

July 30: TRADE — The Seattle Mariners will acquire LHP Zach Duke from the Minnesota Twins, per Jon Heyman. RHP Chase De Jong and 1B/3B Ryan Costello will head to Minneosta, according to Joel Sherman.

July 30: TRADE — The Houston Astros have acquired RHP Roberto Osuna from the Toronto Blue Jays for RHP Ken Giles, RHP Hector Perez and RHP David Paulino, according to Ken Rosenthal. Houston will reportedly send more in the deal, Rosenthal said.

July 30: REPORT — The Washington Nationals, as reported by Chelsea Janes, are likely out of the running for the Marlins' JT Realmuto due to the price remaining "too high". Rosenthal adds that the Nats are also taking offers for free agent relievers such as Kelley and Herrera.

July 30: REPORT — The Toronto Blue Jays are actively trying to trade Roberto Osuna, who is set to return from a domestic violence suspension in the next few weeks, according to Ken Rosenthal.

July 29: TRADE — Pending a physical, the Baltimore Orioles will send RHP Brad Brach to the Atlanta Braves, per Eduardo Encina. The Orioles will receive $250 K in international spending money for Brach, according to Joel Sherman.  

July 29: TRADE  — The Chicago White Sox have acquired LHP Caleb Frare from the New York Yankees for $1.5 M in international spending money, according to Jack Curry

July 28: TRADE — The New York Yankees will receive $1 M in international spending money and 1B Luke Voit from the St. Louis Cardinals for LHP Chasen Shreve and RHP Giovanny Gallegos. 

July 27: TRADE — The Milwaukee Brewers acquired 3B Mike Moustakas from the Kansas City Royals in exchange for OF Brett Phillips and RHP Jorge Lopez, according to Jeffrey Flanagan

July 27: TRADE — The Houston Astros have agreed to a deal with the Minnesota Twins and will acquire RHP Ryan Pressly. The Twins will receive RHP Jorge Alcala and OF Gilberto Celestino, according to Jon Heyman

July 27: TRADE — The Philadelphia Phillies have acquired 2B Asdrubal Cabrera from the New York Mets for RHP Franklyn Kilome. 

July 27: TRADE — The Arizona Diamondbacks will reportedly acquire INF Eduardo Escobar from the Minnesota Twins for RHP Jhoan Duran, OF Ernie De La Trinidad and OF Gabriel Maciel, per Jeff Passan.

July 27: TRADE — The Seattle Mariners acquired RHP Sam Tuivailala from the St. Louis Cardinals for RHP Seth Elledge.

July 26: TRADE — The Chicago Cubs are acquiring Cole Hamels from the Texas Rangers in exchange for a minor league package, according to Jeff Passan. The Rangers will reportedly receive RHP Eddie Butler, RHP Rollie Lacy and a PTBNL.

July 26: RUMOR — The Chicago Cubs are in "strong pursuit" of landing LHP Cole Hamels from the Texas Rangers, according to Jim Bowden

July 26: TRADE — The New York Yankees have acquired LHP J.A. Happ from the Toronto Blue Jays in exchange for infielder Brandon Drury and OF Billy McKinney, according to multiple reports. 

July 26: RUMOR — New York Mets RHP Zack Wheeler has received "heavy interest" by nearly 12 teams. The Milwaukee Brewers have created discussion but the two sides are not close to a deal, per Jon Morosi.

July 26: RUMOR — The New York Yankees are reportedly closing in on a deal with the Toronto Blue Jays for LHP J.A. Happ, according to Joel Sherman. He added that Brandon Drury would headline the return package for Toronto. 

July 26: TRADE — The Milwaukee Brewers have agreed on a deal with the Chicago White Sox for RHP Joakim Soria, per MLB.com's Mark Feinsand. The White Sox will reportedly receive LHP Kodi Medeiros and RHP Wilber Perez. 

July 26: TRADE — The Houston Astros have reportedly acquired C Martin Maldonado from the Los Angeles Angels for LHP Patrick Sandoval, according to Jeff Fletcher

July 25: TRADE — The Colorado Rockies have acquired RHP Seung-hwan Oh from the Toronto Blue Jays in exchange for 1B Chad Spanberger, 2B/OF Forrest Wall and a PTBNL, according to Jon Heyman.  

July 25: TRADE — The Arizona Diamondbacks have acquired RHP Matt Andriese from the Tampa Bay Rays for C Michael Perez and RHP Brian Shaffer, per multiple reports. 

July 25: RUMOR — The Colorado Rockies are reportedly close to an agreement with the Toronto Blue Jays for RHP Sueng-hwan Oh, per Jon Morosi. Oh was removed from the bullpen in the middle of the team's game with the Twins. 

July 25: RUMOR — The Philadelphia Phillies have reportedly contacted the Baltimore Orioles about OF Adam Jones, per Jon Heyman. 

July 25: TRADE — The Tampa Bay Rays have agreed to trade RHP Nathan Eovaldi to the Boston Red Sox for LHP Jalen Beeks, per Ken Rosenthal.

July 23: TRADE — The Baltimore Orioles have agreed to trade LHP Zach Britton to the New York Yankees for RHP Dillon Tate, LHP Josh Rogers and RHP Cody Carroll, pending physicals, per Jon Heyman.

July 23: RUMOR — The Baltimore Orioles and New York Yankees have reportedly agreed to a deal involving LHP Zach Britton, per Jon Heyman.

July 23: RUMOR — The Washington Nationals are reportedly discussing a potential trade with the Texas Rangers involving LHP Cole Hamels, according to MLB.com's Jon Morosi.

July 22: TRADE — Washington Nationals traded LF Brian Goodwin to Kansas City Royals for RHP Jacob Condra-Bogan.

July 21: TRADENew York Mets traded RHP Jeurys Familia to Oakland Athletics for future considerations, RHP Bobby Wahland and 3B Will Toffey.

July 19: TRADESan Diego Padres traded LHP Brad Hand and RHP Adam Cimber to Cleveland Indians for C Francisco Mejia.

July 19: TRADETexas Rangers traded RHP Jesse Chavez to Chicago Cubs for LHP Tyler Thomas.

July 19: TRADETampa Bay Rays traded LF Jeremy Hazelbaker to Minnesota Twins for cash.

July 18: TRADEBaltimore Orioles traded SS Manny Machado to Los Angeles Dodgers for 2B Breyvic Valera, RF Yusniel Diaz, RHP Zach Pop, RHP Dean Kremer and 3B Rylan Bannon.

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July 31: Arizona Diamondbacks get: LHP Jake Diekman. Texas Rangers get: PTBNL.

July 31: Pittsburgh Pirates get: RHP Chris Archer. Tampa Bay Rays: OF Austin Meadows, RHP Tyler Glasnow and PTBNL.

July 31: Los Angeles Dodgers get: 2B Brian Dozier. Minnesota Twins get: INF Logan Forsythe, 1B/OF Luke Raley and LHP Devin Smeltzer

July 31: Philadelphia Phillies get: LHP Aaron Loup. Toronto Blue Jays get: RHP Jacob Waguespack.

July 31: Atlanta Braves get: RHP Kevin Gausman. Baltimore Orioles get: PTBNL.

July 31: Chicago Cubs get: RHP Brandon Kintzler. Washington Nationals get: RHP Jhon Romero.

July 31: Philadelphia Phillies get: C Wilson Ramos. Tampa Bay Rays: PTBNL.

July 31: Arizona Diamondbacks get: RHP Brad Ziegler. Miami Marlins get: RHP Tommy Eveld.

July 31: Cleveland Indians gets: OF Leonys Martin. Detroit Tigers get: 2B/SS Willi Castro.

July 31: Tampa Bay Rays get: OF Tommy Pham. St. Louis Cardinals get: LHP Genesis Cabrera, OF Justin Williams and RHP Roel Ramirez.

July 31: Pittsburgh PIrates get RHP Keone Kela. Texas Rangers get: LHP Taylor Hearn.

July 30: Boston Red Sox get: 2B Ian Kinsler. Los Angeles Angels get: LHP William Jerez and RHP Ty Buttrey.

July 30: Atlanta Braves get: UTIL Adam Duvall. Cincinnati Reds get: RHP Lucas Sims, RHP Matt Wisler and OF Preston Tucker.

July 30: New York Yankees get: RHP Lance Lynn. Minnesota Twins get: RHP Luis Rijo and 1B/OF Tyler Austin.

July 30: Seattle Mariners get: RHP Adam Warren. New York Yankees get: $1.25 M in international spending.

July 30: Seattle Mariners get: LHP Zach Duke. Minnesota Twins get: RHP Chase De Jong and 1B/3B Ryan Costello.

July 30: Houston Astros get: RHP Roberto Osuna. Toronto Blue Jays get: RHP Ken Giles, RHP Hector Perez and RHP David Paulino

July 29: Atlanta Braves get: RHP Brad Brach. Baltimore Orioles get: $250 K in international spending.

July 29: Chicago White Sox get: LHP Caleb Frare. New York Yankees get: $1.5 M in international spending.

July 28: New York Yankees get: 1B Luke Voit and $1 M in international spending money. St. Louis Cardinals get: LHP Chasen Shreve and RHP Giovanny Gallegos.

July 27: Milwaukee Brewers get: 3B Mike Moustakas. Kansas City Royals get: OF Brett Phillips and RHP Jorge Lopez.

July 27: Houston Astros get: RHP Ryan Pressly. Minnesota Twins get: RHP Jorge Alcala and OF Gilberto Celestino.

July 27: Philadelphia Phillies get: 2B Asdrubal Cabrera. New York Mets get: RHP Franklyn Kilome.

July 27: Arizona Diamondbacks get: INF Eduardo Escobar. Minnesota Twins get: RHP Jhoan Duran, OF Ernie De La Trinidad and OF Gabriel Maciel.

July 27: Seattle Mariners get: RHP Sam Tuivailala. St. Louis Cardinals get: RHP Seth Elledge.

July 27: Chicago Cubs get: LHP Cole Hamels. Texas Rangers get: RHP Eddie Butler, RHP Rollie Lacy and a PTBNL.

July 26: New York Yankees get: LHP J.A. Happ . Toronto Blue Jays get: INF Brandon Drury and OF Billy McKinney.

July 26: Milwaukee Brewers get: RHP Joakim Soria. Chicago White Sox get: LHP Kodi Medeiros and RHP Wilber Perez

July 26: Houston Astros get: C Martin Maldonado. Los Angeles Angels get: LHP Patrick Sandoval.

July 25: Colorado Rockies get: RHP Seung-hwan Oh. Toronto Blue Jays get: 1B Chad Spanberger, 2B/OF Forrest Wall and a PTBNL.

July 25: Arizona Diamondbacks get: RHP Matt Andriese. Tampa Bay Rays get: C Michael Perez and RHP Brian Shaffer.

July 25: Boston Red Sox get: RHP Nathan Eovaldi. Tampa Bay Rays get: LHP Jalen Beeks.

July 23: New York Yankees get: LHP Zach Britton. Baltimore Orioles get: RHP Dillon Tate, LHP Josh Rogers and RHP Cody Carroll.

July 22: Kansas City Royals get: LF Brian Goodwin. Washington Nationals get: RHP Jacob Condra-Bogan.

July 21: Oakland Athletics get: RHP Jeurys Familia. New York Mets get: RHP Bobby Wahland, 3B Will Toffey and future considerations.

July 19: Cleveland Indians get: LHP Brad Hand and RHP Adam Cimber. San Diego Padres get: C Francisco Mejia.

July 19: Chicago Cubs get: LHP Jesse Chavez. Texas Rangers get: LHP Tyler Thomas.

July 19: Minnesota Twins get: LF Jeremy Hazelbaker. Tampa Bay Rays get: cash.

July 18: Los Angeles Dodgers get: SS Manny Machado. Baltimore Orioles get: 2B Breyvic Valera, RF Yusniel Diaz, RHP Zach Pop, RHP Dean Kremer, 3B Rylan Bannon.

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Nationals owner Mark Lerner says team can’t afford Stephen Strasburg and Anthony Rendon

Nationals owner Mark Lerner says team can’t afford Stephen Strasburg and Anthony Rendon

The prime question as soon as Stephen Strasburg opted out of his contract was this: Could the Nationals afford to bring back Strasburg and Anthony Rendon? According to managing principal owner Mark Lerner, the answer is no. 

“We really can only afford to have one of those two guys,” Lerner told Donald Dell in an exclusive interview. “They’re huge numbers. We already have a really large payroll to begin with.”

Lerner’s public stance suggesting Strasburg and Rendon is an either-or proposition for the defending World Series champions is new. Is it surprising? Not necessarily. Lerner could flatly state the organization is going to find a way to pay both. However, that’s poor negotiating. Being in between serves multiple needs: It keeps the door open on each player; it stirs the market without roiling it; it prepares fans for an outcome they don’t prefer.

Lerner has not hesitated to comment on pending and enormous free agent situations since becoming the more outward face of the team’s ownership group. His father, founding principal owner Ted Lerner, has stepped back, though remains the patriarchal voice on large expenditures. Here, like last year, Mark Lerner has answered early December questions about free agency with eyebrow-raising candor. His declaration about Strasburg and Rendon comes almost a year-to-the-day after he said about Bryce Harper, “I don’t really expect him to come back at this point. I think they’ve decided to move on.”

An owner talking with a blend of tactfulness and openness -- when asked a direct question by an interviewer -- drew irritation from Harper’s agent, Scott Boras. Boras also represents Rendon and Strasburg. Hearing an owner speak in a way which counters possible price increases by reducing prospective market competition won’t make any agent happy. It happened here.

So, is there a path for the Nationals to pay both players? Of course. But, it’s a matter of how. In Lerner’s view, whether both players return is up to them, not the organization.

“We’re pursuing them, we’re pursuing other free agents in case they decided to go elsewhere,” Lerner said in the interview with Dell. “Again, it’s not up to us. We can give them a great offer -- which we’ve done to both of those players. They’re great people. We’d be delighted if they stay. But it’s not up to us, it’s up to them. That’s why they call it free agency.”

Important to note: Lerner said the organization cannot afford both, then said it’s up to the players -- not ownership -- whether the players return. The suggestion is if they take lower deals, which both sides know they won’t, they could come back, which in fact would make the players solely responsible for deciding the process. That’s now how free agency works, which everyone involved here understands. 

Lerner could process the offseason in Steinbrennerian fashion. Pay, pay, pay. He won’t. It’s not how the family runs the team. They operate more as well-heeled pragmatists. 

Payroll is consistently high. Washington has been in the top seven four of the last five seasons. Twice, it has reached the No. 5 spot in team payroll. The Nationals gave Max Scherzer the years and total other teams would not. The same happened for Patrick Corbin last offseason.

However, the team also took extensive measures to dip back under the competitive balance tax threshold in 2019 in order to avoid financial and draft pick penalties. It is also already driving down next season’s payroll by renegotiating with Yan Gomes (declined $9 million option; re-signed for two years and $10 million) and reworking Ryan Zimmerman’s contract (declined $18 million option; likely re-signing for around a third of that).

Costs outside of the two big-ticket items of third base and an upper-tier starter should be moderate. The bullpen needs help. Relievers are not bank-breakers. Second base could well consist of a veteran and rookie Carter Kieboom. Those spots influence the immediate math and save money.

Looming are the contracts of Trea Turner (free agent in 2023; also receiving a raise this season), Juan Soto and Victor Robles (free agents in 2025). Though that trio is egregiously outperforming their contracts while wading through MLB’s oppressive early career salary scale, which means opportunity exists now to spend because of emphatic savings via those three players.

Lerner also suggested the free agency process is generally misunderstood outside of baseball circles.

“They think you’re really back there printing money and it’s whoever goes to the highest bidder,” Lerner said. “It’s not that way at all. You give these fellas -- there’s a negotiation that goes on, but...We’ve been pretty successful in free agency over time. You’re not going to get everybody. Certain players may want to go home, closer to where their home is. You never know the reason why people move on. But, we’ve been very successful. Probably one of the most successful teams in free agency the last 10 years. We’re very proud of our record. But, again, I think people have to realize, it’s not all up to us.” 

It nearly can be. The money can be level or more. A public emphasis could be put on the organization’s desperation to bring back two homegrown, upper-tier players at distinct positions of need. No, teams can’t control everything with just cash (as Zack Wheeler recently demonstrated by taking less money to sign with Philadelphia). However, if the organization contends it owns the environmental tiebreakers -- which is a stance the Nationals hold with both players -- then it does become a matter of money and whether it’s found. In this case, the owner says it won’t be. 

See more of the interview on the next episode of The Donald Dell Interview, which debuts December 17 at 7 PM on NBC Sports Washington.
 

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Anthony Rendon's best options and the chances he returns to the Nationals

Anthony Rendon's best options and the chances he returns to the Nationals

Discussions and speculation surrounding how the Nationals will look on Opening Day of their first World Series title defense begin and end with free agents Stephen Strasburg and Anthony Rendon. 

Considered two of the top three players available along with Astros pitcher Gerrit Cole, Rendon and Strasburg will both command massive paydays wherever they decide to sign. 

To this point, reports have suggested a marriage between Strasburg and the Nationals could happen as soon as the start of the winter meetings. 

But what about Rendon? Jesse Daugherty of the Washington Post and Jamal Collier of MLB.com joined Todd Dybas on the Nationals Talk Podcast to break down his best options and the level of interest he could have in returning to DC. 

"I think the one most intriguing option for me that seems to make sense is that Justin Turner has said he'll move off third [base] for LA [Dodgers] and the Dodgers are known to offer low-year, high AAV deals which is something that probably seems attractive to Rendon, who has told us many a time he'd like to retire by 35," Daugherty said. 

If we can take Rendon's word on retiring at 35, this contract may be his last. One major hurdle for him could be the depth at third base across the league, especially on contending teams. 

"Most teams don't need [a third baseman]," Daugherty said. "The Phillies need one, the Braves need one, I guess the Dodgers need one if Turner's willing to move, but [the third base market] really is hard for me to gauge."

Meanwhile, Collier speculates that a natural fit for Rendon would be his home-town team. 

"A team that potentially could be a player for Rendon and one that makes a lot of sense is Texas [Rangers]," Collier said. "Obviously the home state, coming into a new ballpark, they should have money to spend, and I think it's a place that he would want to play at."

Every player wants to get paid, but there are often intangible factors that convince them to take a discount. Whether it's comfortability, saving your owner money to keep a contender together or playing close to home, not every player is won over by a huge contract offer. 

While that may be the case with Strasburg, it doesn't appear Rendon puts as much stock in those things. 

"All those things we said about Strasburg in the comfort and the idea that he likes it [in Washington], I think those things are also true for Rendon," Collier said. "I think if all things were equal, I think the Nats would hold some sort of tiebreaker over most teams. The comfort of DC is probably in his factors but probably won't weigh as heavily as it will with Strasburg. 

"The money has to be equal if the Nats are going to be there," Collier said. 

So no matter how much the Nationals may want to bring both Rendon and Strasburg back for a team-friendly price, they'll have to play by the same rules as everyone else. 

If they don't want to pay up for Rendon, their options to replace him are notably slim. 

"Someone is going to throw a lot of money to Rendon," Collier said. "He’s been a 5, 6 win player per season and probably will be for the next few years. One of the best players in baseball is going to get some play, but not sure where."

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