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Drafting a first round QB outside of the top two picks has largely backfired lately

Drafting a first round QB outside of the top two picks has largely backfired lately

Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes are two quarterbacks who were taken in the middle of the 2017 NFL Draft's first round, and they serve as two recent examples that you don't have to have a pick at the top of that round to land a star passer.

Problem is, they're basically the only recent examples, too.

In the past decade, teams who've tried to find their franchise signal-caller in the first round outside of either the first or second pick have failed time and time again. Since 2009, those prized QBs have mostly been selected No. 1 or No. 2 overall or mined beyond the first round. 

The following list, compiled by Redskins Talk co-host Mitch Tischler, shows how many mediocre to straight-up bad options franchises have found using picks 3-32:

  • Mark Sanchez — 2009 pick No. 5 — 37-36 career record
  • Josh Freeman — 2009 pick No. 17 — 25-36 career record
  • Tim Tebow — 2010 pick No. 25 — 8-6 career record
  • Jake Locker — 2011 pick No. 8 — 9-14 career record
  • Blaine Gabbert — 2011 pick No. 10 — 13-35 career record
  • Christian Ponder — 2011 pick No. 12 — 14-21-1 career record
  • Ryan Tannehill — 2012 pick No. 8 —42-46 career record
  • Brandon Weeden — 2012 pick No. 22 — 6-19 career record
  • EJ Manuel — 2013 pick No. 16 — 6-12 career record
  • Blake Bortles — 2014 pick No. 3 — 24-49 career record
  • Johnny Manziel — 2014 pick No. 22 — 2-6 career record
  • Paxton Lynch — 2016 pick No. 26 — 1-3 career record
  • Patrick Mahomes — 2017 pick No. 10 — 13-4 career record
  • Deshaun Watson — 2017 pick No. 12 — 14-8 career record
  • Sam Darnold — 2018 pick No. 3 — 4-9 career record
  • Josh Allen — 2018 pick No. 7 — 5-6 career record
  • Josh Rosen — 2018 pick No. 10 — 3-10 career record
  • Lamar Jackson — 2018 pick No. 32 — 6-1 career record
     

That list is one the Redskins — who own the 15th pick in the 2019 draft and who are beginning to be linked heavily to Kyler Murray — should pay close attention to.

The 2018 class is too young to judge, and as mentioned earlier, the 2017 class is providing quality returns. But none of the other names on that list have turned into anything useful, not to mention anything resembling special.

Of course, if you go back farther into the past, you'll find that QBs like Matt Ryan, Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers were snagged during the meat of the first round, so it's not impossible. However, the last 10 years have shown it can be very difficult to nail a pick in that range.

The logic feels simple: The truly elite talents, such as Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, Carson Wentz and Jared Goff, are snatched up immediately. The QBs who are found in the mid- to late rounds, meanwhile, are given more time to develop and/or find themselves on rosters that have been built up more.

Those non-elite first-rounders, on the other hand, are generally caught in between: not skilled enough to help turn around a team singlehandedly but, because they're high investments, they're forced into those tough situations and end up floundering.

There's no doubt that the 'Skins need a new hope under center. Where they should commit to that hope, though, is something that must be considered.  

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Redskins running back Derrius Guice being sued by his former agent

Redskins running back Derrius Guice being sued by his former agent

Despite missing much of his first two professional seasons due to multiple knee injuries, Derrius Guice is already one of the most popular players on the Redskins.

His personality helped raise his profile, which has led to a number of endorsement deals beyond his NFL rookie contract.

Now, Guice’s former agent has filed a lawsuit over not being paid in return for these deals.

The running back’s initial agent after leaving LSU was Fadde Mikhail, but Guice left his agency weeks before being drafted. He then signed with Young Money, and according to Mikhail in the lawsuit, was required to pay back the money he had been lent during the pre-draft process.

Per the lawsuit, Guice and Young Money have allegedly not repaid Mikhail, and the latter is now asking for $500,000. The lawsuit was filed Tuesday in a California court.

Guice has endorsement deals with Nike and Hyundai, in addition to other opportunities to earn money from his likeness and autographs. This supplemental income is what Mikhail’s suit is regarding, in addition to alleged pre-draft loans of $191,000.

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Stephen A. Smith thinks Redskins are drafting Chase Young despite positive health noise about Tua Tagovailoa

Stephen A. Smith thinks Redskins are drafting Chase Young despite positive health noise about Tua Tagovailoa

The NFL Draft begins in three weeks, and what the Redskins will do with the coveted No. 2 overall pick remains a hot topic of conversation.

There's a large consensus from many draft experts that the Redskins will select Ohio State pass rusher Chase Young, who many have deemed a generational talent. However, there are still rumors surfacing that Washington is interested in drafting Alabama QB Tua Tagovailoa, but those have quieted down since the Redskins traded for QB Kyle Allen last week.

ESPN host Stephen A. Smith was asked if he thinks the Redskins should take Tagovailoa with the second overall pick, and he quickly shot down that notion.

"I've been told the Washington Redskins are not going to touch Tua," Smith said on First Take. "They're going after Chase Young. They're not drafting a quarterback. That's what I've been told."

Smith explained that pass rusher is arguably the second most important position on the field behind quarterback, and passing on a generational talent like Young would be a mistake. Additionally, Smith believes that Tagovailoa's durability concerns are not to be taken lightly.

"You can't have a question mark at the quarterback position due to talent, then bring in an additional question mark due to durability in arguably the most violent sport that we know," he said.

In the first part of his statement, Smith is referring to Dwayne Haskins, who the Redskins selected 15th overall last season. Haskins had his growing pains as a rookie but played his best football at the end of the season. New Redskins head coach Ron Rivera has preached wanting competition for Haskins, and he got his wish when he traded for Allen last week. The two are expected to battle for the starting job come training camp.

Tagovailoa has just recently fully recovered from a dislocated hip injury that he suffered last November. Last week, a video surfaced of the QB throwing for the first time since his injury.

On Thursday, a report from NFL Network's Mike Garafolo stated that Tagovailoa participated in a medical re-check administered by an independent doctor provided by NFL team physicians, and the results were "overwhelmingly positive." 

Despite the positive medical reports that have surfaced about Tagovailoa, Smith believes his durability is too much of a question mark to justify taking him over Young.

"He's the elite pass rusher in the upcoming draft. You've got the chance to take him with the No. 2 overall pick," Smith said on Young. "Could you imagine if they pass on him and grab Tua, then Haskins doesn't pan out and Tua gets hurt early? That would be problematic. You don't want that."

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