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OPEN THREAD: How low does RG3 rank among NFL quarterbacks?

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OPEN THREAD: How low does RG3 rank among NFL quarterbacks?

Looking around the NFL, the top quarterbacks are obvious: Andrew Luck, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. It's easy to argue the order the players belong in, but it gets more interesting when you consider what teams have the best QB situations, both for 2015 and beyond, and consider factors like contract and age. When looking at that picture, Manning and Brady slide, especially as the former deals with injury concerns and the latter is appealing a four-game suspension. 

Rotoworld looked at every NFL team to judge their quarterback situation, and the results are a bit surprising. And for Redskins fans, the results are depressing. 

With Andrew Luck at the helm and only 25 years old, it's no surprise the Colts ranked No. 1. Rodgers and the Packers take the No. 2 spot, solely because Rodgers is older than Luck. At No. 3 comes the first true surprise, with Russell Wilson and the Seahawks. Wilson is a really good player - taken three rounds after Luck and Robert Griffin III in 2012 - with back to back Super Bowl appearances, but statistically Wilson doesn't approach a host of other QBs.

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The surprises keep coming on this list, but what Redskins fans want to know is where does RG3 land. The results aren't good: The 'Skins QB situation ranked No. 29 out of 32 NFL teams, with just Cleveland (Josh McCown), Houston (Ryan Mallett) and Buffalo (Matt Cassel) behind Washington. That means Oakland with Derek Carr and Jacksonville with Blake Bortles rank higher than Griffin, not to mention the Jets with Ryan Fitzpatrick. It's hard to think RG3's stock has fallen so far since his dominant rookie season in 2012, but here we are.

From Rotoworld: 

There are harbingers of doom, and then there’s getting benched for Colt McCoy in the year of our lord 2014. Robert Griffin III looked like the league’s most electrifying player since Michael Vick as a rookie, but injuries have robbed him of his unique athleticism. They haven’t robbed him of his penchant for drama, which has put him at loggerheads with coach Jay Gruden, a man who seems to have little interest in catering his “system” to RGIII’s strengths. It’s made for a toxic situation that appears to have little hope of a happy ending. Still only 25, it’s too early to write off Griffin’s career, but a departure from Washington is probably best for both sides. It’s likely to come in 2016, quite possibly after RGIII has again been benched for McCoy.  

Consider that RG3 was taken No. 2 overall in 2012, behind only Luck. In that same draft came Miami's Ryan Tannehill, ranked 10th, Nick Foles, now in St. Louis and ranked three spots ahead of Griffin at 26, and Wilson, a third round pick now ranked as the third best situation for a QB in the NFL.

How the mighty have fallen. Injuries are a huge part of Griffin's slide, but still, does RG3 belong so low on this list? Ahead of just three teams? Worse than the Jets and Raiders? Let us know what you think in the comments. 

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Need to Know: The five best teams the Redskins will play in 2018

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Need to Know: The five best teams the Redskins will play in 2018

Here is what you need to know on this Sunday, July 15, 11 days before the Washington Redskins start training camp.  

The best teams the Redskins will face in 2018

This week we’ll be looking at the best of what the Redskins will face during the 2018 season. Most of the focus will be on individuals such as quarterbacks and pass rushers, but we’re going to get started with the best teams on the schedule. These are roughly ranked by Football Outsiders’ DVOA, although I did some juggling based on offseason moves and other factors. 

1. Eagles (13-3, Super Bowl champs)—They were fifth overall in DVOA and the second-ranked team on the schedule. But DVOA is calculated for the regular season only and you have to say that by the time the playoffs were over that the Eagles had taken their game up a few notches over everyone else. They haven’t lost much over the offseason, putting them at the top of the heap and the Redskins play them twice. 

2. Saints (11-5, lost in divisional round)—New Orleans was the top team in DVOA in 2017. After a couple of mediocre seasons, the Saints have retooled, and they will make a push to get Drew Brees his second Super Bowl ring. They play in Week 5, which means that Mark Ingram will be back from his four-game suspension to open the season and he will be alongside Alvin Kamara in the Saints backfield. They both had over 100 yards from scrimmage when the teams played last year. 

3. Jaguars (10-6, lost AFC title game)—They finally made the jump after failing for the last few years as the trendy preseason pick. It was no fluke as they outscored their opponents by 149 points on the season. Their quarterback situation is far from ideal with Blake Bortles, but they are strong enough defensively (first in defensive DVOA) to rely on their running game. 

4. Panthers (11-5, lost in wild-card round)—They certainly have had the Redskins’ number, winning the last six matchups, a streak going back to 2009. This doesn’t seem to be one of those fluke situations. The Redskins simply have problems matching up with Cam Newton. Carolina also is solid defensively (No. 7 in DVOA). 

5. Falcons (10-6, lost in divisional round)—Even though the Cowboys ranked a couple of notches ahead of the Falcons in DVOA, I’m putting the Falcons ahead of them. Dallas doesn’t have a good enough defense to win with their running game. I’ve always been a big Matt Ryan fan and a lot more people would be too if he hadn’t been victimized by poor defense and bad play calling in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. Add in Julio Jones and their running backs and you have a scary offense. Defensively they are not that good but I still like their unit better than that of the Cowboys.

Rest of top 10:

6. Packers—Almost put them ahead of Falcons, their DVOA suffered last year with Rodgers out.
7. Cowboys—Even with problems on D, still have the Redskins’ number.
8. Texans—Way down the DVOA rankings last year but they will the tough with J.J. Watt and Deshaun Watson back. 
9. Titans—I’m not sure if they’re ready to take the next step up but they will be hard to beat. 
10. Bucs—The bolstered a defense that already with tough with Jason Pierre-Paul and Vita Vea.  

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Timeline 

Days until:

—Training camp starts (7/26) 11
—Preseason opener @ Patriots (8/9) 25
—Roster cut to 53 (9/1) 48

The Redskins last played a game 196 days ago. They will open the 2018 NFL season at the Cardinals in 56 days. 

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Need to Know: The Redskins week that was—Breaking down the Alexander pick

Need to Know: The Redskins week that was—Breaking down the Alexander pick

Here is what you need to know on this Saturday, July 14, 12 days before the Washington Redskins start training camp.  

The Redskins week that was

Is Junior Galette hinting at a possible return to the Redskins? I would be very surprised if Galette ever wears a Redskins uniform again although it would make sense for them to talk to him. I think the Redskins should be very nervous about their depth at outside linebacker. Pernell McPhee can get them some pressure, but he has missed 10 games over the last two seasons. Ryan Anderson’s next NFL sack will be his first. You can’t have too many pass rushers; the Redskins could well find themselves in a spot where they don’t have enough. 

Upside outweighed risk in Redskins' selection of Alexander—The selection of Adonis Alexander wasn’t quite a no-brainer, but it was not a tough call for the Redskins to make. Torrian Gray, who recruited and coached Alexander at Virginia Tech, gave the green light so it came down to his potential and what draft pick they were willing to give up. They have two in the fifth round next year and they had three in the sixth. They might as well get one of those late Saturday afternoon picks in a year early and see what they have. We have more analysis of the Alexander pick here and here

If Guice is legitimate, the Redskins running game could explode—With the exception of the 2012-2013 seasons, when quarterback Robert Griffin III was kicking in a lot of yards on the ground, the Redskins have not been in the top 10 in the league in rushing yards since 2008. Derrius Guice could help change that. Read the post for my in-depth look at the running back position. 

Madden has a clear answer for the Alex Smith-Kirk Cousins debate—I don’t know much about Madden ratings, so I don’t have a lot to add here. It doesn’t look to me like the difference between the ratings of Smith and Cousins constitute and “clear” advantage but, again, what do I know?

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Timeline 

Days until:

—Training camp starts (7/26) 12
—Preseason opener @ Patriots (8/9) 26
—Roster cut to 53 (9/1) 54

The Redskins last played a game 195 days ago. They will open the 2018 NFL season at the Cardinals in 57 days. 

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