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Mullin: Martz's input on personnel makes no sense

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Mullin: Martz's input on personnel makes no sense

Thursday, March 3, 2011
Posted: 8:42 p.m.

By John Mullin
CSNChicago.com

Word now is that the owners and players will extend their fail-safe point 24 hours, according to Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com (http:tinyurl.com486pj6g) and other reports. Mikes take is that the intent here is to buy time for concluding a longer extension, which I agree with since it is going to take longer than that to wrap up anything of real substance.

What remains encouraging through all of this is the absence of rhetoric intended to curry favor with fans, legislators or anyone else. That neither side is violating the cone of silence is a good thing, in small part because it suggests that neither side is wasting time and breath on invective and histrionics, which are beneath meaningless in a situation where there are no good guys.

The public thinks athletes are overpaid and that owners are greedy. In an industry where workers minimum wage is more than 300,000 and ownership already is making money in the billions, fans dont really care here whether a billion dollars goes to one side or the other. That the principals are talking to each other and not to microphones is a good thing.

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The absence of a labor agreement hasnt stopped teams from locking up the likes of safety O.J. Atogwe (with Washington, five years, 26 million) and linebacker A.J. Hawk (Green Bay, five years, 6 million - 7 million per season, according to Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel).

It wont rank with the dollars or years of those deals but the Bears not getting one done with center Olin Kreutz has been a touch surprising. Kreutz is not the long-term solution at center, which he and the Bears obviously know. Kreutz and the Bears are talking about a deal but its a short-term package for a guy who has made no secret of his wish to finish his career as a Bear.

The Bears believe they have alternatives to Kreutz in Roberto Garza and Edwin Williams. Both started their careers as centers but theres a reason why they didnt continue them there.

One suggestion made to me is that if the Bears land a draft target like Floridas Mike Pouncey, a projected starter at either guard or center if he comes to Chicago, Kreutzs chances of returning diminish, although his value as a mentor is borderline incalculable, even with Mike Tice coaching the offensive line.

And even if the Bears do not secure Pouncey or suitable alternative (a post-Tommie Harris defensive tackle is a priority), Kreutzs value is possibly even higher for a offensive line that could have only Garza or Kreutz back in the same spots they filled in 2010.

The Bears were wrong with Josh Beekman as Kreutzs successor. They cannot afford to be wrong again with a line still in transition.

Making sense?

Mike Martz said in a recent Chicago Tribune story that it wouldnt make any sense to part ways with running back Chester Taylor, as a source told CSNChicago.com that the Bears will be doing. Martz wondered why that would happen why you would release a running back whose average yards per carry has gone from 5.4 in 2007 to 4.0 to 3.6 and finally to 2.4 in 2010, who does nothing on special teams, who ties up 1.25 million of a salary cap that is very possibly going to dip in 2011, and who will be 32 this September.

It was Martz who was adamant about bringing in Todd Collins and then twice slotted Collins ahead of Caleb Hanie on the QB depth chart. It was Martz who needed free agent Brandon Manumaleuna, the tight end who was regularly fined in 2010 for failing to make weight.

And Martz told the Sun-Times that Garza played really well last season at right guard where he has never played before. That would be excluding the 74 straight starts Garza had at right guard prior to 2010.

So as far as what makes sense to Martz from a personnel standpointoh, never mind.

Martz is right from one angle, that it doesnt make sense to cut Taylor, now. He is not due prohibitive offseason bonuses and BYU rookie running back Harvey Unga, whom Jerry Angelo thought enough of to spend a seventh-round pick via the supplemental draft is coming off IR with a hamstring injury. Once Unga is through training camp healthy, with Garrett Wolfe back after tying for second in special-teams tackles, maybe the Taylor thing will make sense to some people.

John "Moon" Mullin is CSNChicago.com's Bears Insider, and appears regularly on Bears Postgame Live and Chicago Tribune Live. Follow Moon on Twitter for up-to-the-minute Bears information.

Under Center Podcast: Bears prop bets (and a bold Mitch Trubisky prediction)

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Under Center Podcast: Bears prop bets (and a bold Mitch Trubisky prediction)

JJ Stankevitz, Cam Ellis and Paul Aspan wonder if John Fox had a point about the Bears having the worst offseason in the NFL (1:00), then offer up some prop bets for the Bears in 2019 involving Eloy Jimenez's home runs and Khalil Mack's sacks (5:00), undrafted free agent rookies making the roster (10:00), when/if the Bears will cut a kicker during the season (12:45), running back production (16:30) and how many games Adam Shaheen will play (25:50).

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Bears summer prop bets: Eloy home runs vs. Bears sacks and others

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Bears summer prop bets: Eloy home runs vs. Bears sacks and others

With over a month until football comes back for Bears training camp, JJ Stankevitz, Cam Ellis & Paul Aspan are killing that time on the latest Under Center podcast by taking a way too early look at some fun Bears prop bets. Here are some of their favorites that they discussed and a couple bonus props.

Eloy HR vs. Akiem Hicks + Khalil Mack + Roquan Smith sacks

Well, That. Was. Awesome.

As far as Crosstown moments go, Eloy’s 9th inning go-ahead home run immediately jumps into AJ vs Barrett territory. Dude broke his bat and still managed to (momentarily) crush one entire fan base while convincing another the rebuild has turned a corner. Poor Jose Quintana. He never had a chance.

With his absurd hot streak of six home runs in his last nine games, Eloy now has 12 homers in 47 games which skews his pace to about one every four games. With 91 games remaining that would put his season total around 34, but it’s safe to say he’s at least in the 25-30 HR neighborhood. Now if they keep throwing Eloy inside fastballs, Akiem Hicks & Khalil Mack could each pass Michael Strahan’s single season sack record of 22.5 and it won’t matter.

As for Hicks, Mack and Roquan Smith, might as well dub them the HMS trio with a trip to London on tap. Those three combined for 25 sacks in 2018 and with five sacks thru the first four games of 2018, it looked like Mack might have a real chance to threaten Strahan’s mark on his own. But then injuries, triple teams and the constant adjustment / readjustment nature of the NFL by opposing offenses held Mack to 7.5 sacks in the final 10 games he played, even if we can all agree he deserved at least two more for this.

Hicks tallied 7.5 sacks and shows no signs of slowing down, so a double digit sack season for him seems to be well within reach. And Smith’s sneaky five sack total in his rookie season will likely only increase with Chuck Pagano’s penchant to blitz and ‘wreak havoc.’

This is a total coin flip, so while you contemplate, let’s go back to the latest, greatest moment in this Crosstown rivalry:

Ozzie is the freakin’ best.

Eloy was probably thinking of that moment on this entire drive up to Wrigley Field Tuesday.

And salty Cubs twitter is (are?) my favorite Cubs fans.

Relax, I’m putting you guys in the World Series later, so take it easy.

Do the Bears cut their kicker before or after their Week 6 Bye?

At least give me some credit for not leading with the obvious kicker prop.

This bet starts with the Week 1 kickoff, because based on what we’ve seen from this ‘oh this is fun --- wait they’re still in real trouble’ kicker competition, who knows if the Bears are still playing kicker roulette leading up to the opener. At first I had this at Week 3, but that puts us all in a world of despair that we don’t want to imagine.

The original prop I...um...proposed...earlier this offseason on the podcast was Over/Under: 2.5 Bears kickers during the regular season. Two kickers seem all too likely while anything over that spells disaster, so we’ll make this more of a timing thing. Which doesn’t really make it any better.

An early season change that involves anything other than a trade for Robbie Gould will send the fan base into a panic. A late season change that involves anything other than a trade for Robbie Gould? Much worse.

Oh, you want to bet that they’ll stick with one kicker all season? It won’t be hard to find someone to take that bet. Just make sure you get like 5-1 odds to make it worthwhile.

Will Trubisky throw 10 more touchdowns than Craig Kimbrel has saves? (including playoffs for both)

Here’s how this one breaks down by the numbers

Note: “by the numbers” in no way means these have been calculated by any sort of algorithm, python or R - you’ll need to find someone much smarter than me for that kind of data analysis. I’m pro-analytics but I would hope I’d be in a front office if I had that kind of brain power.

Trubisky had 24 passing touchdowns in 14 games last season and we have to account for some growth in his second year in Nagy’s system so let’s give him 30 TD in 2019. Over the last four seasons, Kimbrel has averaged right around 36 saves per season, so let’s cut that in half to 18. And also use it as an excuse to show this again.

The wrinkle in this one is the playoffs. If the Cubs are going to make a deep playoff run, they’re gonna need Kimbrel to shut the door, conservatively, every other game. 11 wins for a World Series, so let’s (once again conservatively, we know how Joe Maddon likes to use his closer) say at least 6 saves.

I know how much Bears fans don’t want to hear the Jared Goff - Trubisky comparisons, but for this example, just hear me out -  it makes sense!

Goff got the Rams to the Super Bowl (or the Rams got Goff to the Super Bowl??), with the former first overall pick throwing one total touchdown pass in the playoffs. Based off that blueprint - and mix in a Freezer Left or a Chicago Special -  it’s not entirely out of the realm of possibility that the Bears could do the same without needing Trubisky to throw more than one touchdown pass in each playoff game. So we’re right in the range of 34 TD to 24 saves.

Stop yelling at me about not automatically assuming Trubisky is gonna be better than Goff. This is a good thing! We’re talking about the possibility of a Cubs World Series & a Bears Super Bowl.

Will the Bears have twice as many sacks vs Rodgers, Stafford & Cousins as those three QBs have passing TD vs the Bears?

I was going to make this a straight up prop of sacks vs touchdowns until I went back and looked at the numbers from their six games last season again.

Bears sacks vs Rodgers, Cousins & Stafford:                                    21!!!

Rodgers, Cousins & Stafford total passing TD vs Bears                    8

We have to account for some regression here, as the Bears sacked Stafford six times in a single game and Rodgers five times in a single game. I also can’t bank on the Bears D to keep this trio completely out of the end zone in two of the six games as they did in 2018.

Boil it down and the Bears averaged 3.5 sacks per game against their NFC North foes and that’s a tall order to run back in 2019. But even if the Bears replicate that, I’m gonna take the three princes of the north to throw 2 TD per game, which leaves the final count at 21 Bears sacks vs 12 passing TD.

Will the Blackhawks & Bulls combine for more total wins than Trubisky’s lowest passer rating this coming season?

For those of us who need want a little action on the back burner thru football season, March Madness, the start of next baseball season, the Masters, and want to (hopefully) sweat it out all the way until the end of the next NBA & NHL regular seasons.

The Hawks (36 wins) and Bulls (22 wins) combined for 58 total wins last season. Mitch turned in a total clunker against the Rams (33.3 passer rating), so if that happens, the Hawks & Bulls are probably - probably -  a safe bet.

But if you throw out that Rams game, Mitch’s 2nd lowest passer rating of 2018 was the week before, against the Vikings, when he posted a 61.9 rating (hey, they won!). Even allowing for the most optimistic of Trubisky growth spurts in his 2nd season under Matt Nagy, if ya threaten everyone at Halas Hall with a couple of Malort shots, even they would admit Mitch is gonna have at least one bad game next season.

If that (foul tasting) *hiccup* is in the 60-65 passer rating range (or if you’re optimistic about the Blackhawks & Bulls - let’s say  65-75 range) this could be an all the way down to the Bulls and Hawks final games next April, wager.

Ah April...just like June...when it’s still cloudy. Rainy. And we’re stuck inside coming up with ridiculous prop bets because it feels like summer will never show up, ever again.

Bears regular season wins vs Cubs playoff wins

Hey, if the Bears are going 12-4 again, this one is easy. This is also easy if you’re a White Sox fan who will obviously take the Bears. But whatcha thinking Cubs fans? 11 wins for a World Series...I gotta proposition for ya! (RIP Prop Joe, still too soon.)