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  6. article_body => "<p>The Cubs now apparently believe they are a stronger organization without Chris Bosio, firing a pitching coach known for his strong convictions, brutal honesty and bottom-line results in a move that doesn\u2019t seem like an actual solution.<\/p>\n<p>Hiring Jim Hickey \u2013 who has a good reputation from his years with the Tampa Bay Rays, a close friendship with Joe Maddon and what looks like a slam-dunk interview lined up for Monday \u2013 might make the manager feel more comfortable and less isolated. <\/p>\n<p>But the new-voice\/different-direction spin doesn\u2019t fundamentally address the pitching issues facing a team that needs to replace 40 percent of the rotation and find an established closer and has zero expectations those answers will come from within the farm system. <\/p>\n<p>This is an operation that won a seven-game World Series last year without a homegrown player throwing a single pitch. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>If the Cubs can say thanks for the memories and dump \u201cBoz,\u201d what about \u201cSchwarbs?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Advancing to the National League Championship Series in three straight seasons doesn\u2019t happen without Bosio or Kyle Schwarber. But the fastest way for the Cubs to dramatically improve their pitching staff isn\u2019t finding someone else who thinks it\u2019s important to throw strikes. It could mean breaking up The Core and severing another emotional attachment. &nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Theo Epstein saw Schwarber play for Indiana University and used the Fenway Park frame of reference, envisioning him as a combination of David Ortiz and Dustin Pedroia with his left-handed power and energizer personality.<\/p>\n<p>Epstein wasn\u2019t the only Cubs official to develop a man-crush on Schwarber, but he\u2019s the only one with ultimate control over baseball operations. Epstein\u2019s style isn\u2019t pounding the table as much as the ability to frame questions in the draft room, gather as many opinions as possible before the trade deadline and at the winter meetings, trying to form a consensus. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI will say that it\u2019s really an organization-wide evaluation of this player, but I\u2019m not skirting responsibility,\u201d Epstein said. \u201cI\u2019ll happily endorse him as the type of player that we want to win with here at the Cubs, and have won with. I don\u2019t know, the fact that he hit 30 bombs in a bad year is a good start. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut power is not everything. I think he fell into this year becoming more of a slugger and less of a hitter than he really is. It\u2019s important for him to get his identity back as a dangerous hitter. Honestly, I think we feel he has the potential to be an all-around hitter on the level of an Anthony Rizzo. When he reaches his prime, that\u2019s what he could be.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Where will that be? As a designated hitter in the American League? That\u2019s obvious speculation, but Schwarber has improved as an outfield defender \u2013 his strong throw at Dodger Stadium led to another NLCS Maddon Moment where the manager compared the Buster Posey Rule to the Chicago soda tax.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A 43-45 record at the All-Star break also exposed some of the weaknesses in the clubhouse and downsides to Maddon\u2019s methods. The Cubs flipped a switch in the second half, got hot in September and had the guts to beat the Washington Nationals in the playoffs. But that doesn\u2019t completely wipe away the concerns about a group that at times seemed too casual and unfocused and didn\u2019t play with enough edge. For better or worse, Schwarber approaches the game like a blitzing linebacker. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe\u2019s got a certain toughness and certain leadership qualities that are hard to find,\u201d Epstein said, \u201cand that we don\u2019t necessarily have in surplus, in abundance, running around in this clubhouse, in this organization. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cA certain energy and grit and ability to bring people together \u2013 that\u2019s important and we rely on it. But the biggest thing is his bat. We think he\u2019s the type of offensive player that you build around, along with a couple other guys like him.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Maddon would never admit it, but was the Schwarber leadoff experiment a mistake? <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ll judge that one based on the results and say yeah,\u201d Epstein said. \u201cI think we can talk about the process that went into it. Or in an alternate universe: Does it pan out? But those are just words. It didn\u2019t work.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEverything that went into Kyle\u2019s really surprising and difficult first half of the season, we should look to correct, because that shouldn\u2019t happen. He\u2019s a way better hitter than that. What he did after coming back from Iowa proves it.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>In the same way that Maddon should own what happens with the next pitching coach, Epstein will ultimately have to decide Schwarber\u2019s future. <\/p>\n<p>Schwarber didn\u2019t complain or pout when he got sent down to Triple-A Iowa this summer, finishing with 30 homers, a .782 OPS, a .211 batting average and a 30.9 strikeout percentage.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Trading Schwarber would mean selling lower and take another team having the same gut instincts the Cubs did in the 2014 draft \u2013 and offering the talented, controllable starting pitcher that sometimes seems like a unicorn. <\/p>\n<p>Is Schwarber still the legend from last year\u2019s World Series? 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The Cubs now apparently believe they are a stronger organization without Chris Bosio, firing a pitching coach known for his strong convictions, brutal honesty and bottom-line results in a move that doesn’t seem like an actual solution.

Hiring Jim Hickey – who has a good reputation from his years with the Tampa Bay Rays, a close friendship with Joe Maddon and what looks like a slam-dunk interview lined up for Monday – might make the manager feel more comfortable and less isolated.

But the new-voice/different-direction spin doesn’t fundamentally address the pitching issues facing a team that needs to replace 40 percent of the rotation and find an established closer and has zero expectations those answers will come from within the farm system.

This is an operation that won a seven-game World Series last year without a homegrown player throwing a single pitch.     

If the Cubs can say thanks for the memories and dump “Boz,” what about “Schwarbs?”

Advancing to the National League Championship Series in three straight seasons doesn’t happen without Bosio or Kyle Schwarber. But the fastest way for the Cubs to dramatically improve their pitching staff isn’t finding someone else who thinks it’s important to throw strikes. It could mean breaking up The Core and severing another emotional attachment.   

Theo Epstein saw Schwarber play for Indiana University and used the Fenway Park frame of reference, envisioning him as a combination of David Ortiz and Dustin Pedroia with his left-handed power and energizer personality.

 

Epstein wasn’t the only Cubs official to develop a man-crush on Schwarber, but he’s the only one with ultimate control over baseball operations. Epstein’s style isn’t pounding the table as much as the ability to frame questions in the draft room, gather as many opinions as possible before the trade deadline and at the winter meetings, trying to form a consensus.

“I will say that it’s really an organization-wide evaluation of this player, but I’m not skirting responsibility,” Epstein said. “I’ll happily endorse him as the type of player that we want to win with here at the Cubs, and have won with. I don’t know, the fact that he hit 30 bombs in a bad year is a good start.

“But power is not everything. I think he fell into this year becoming more of a slugger and less of a hitter than he really is. It’s important for him to get his identity back as a dangerous hitter. Honestly, I think we feel he has the potential to be an all-around hitter on the level of an Anthony Rizzo. When he reaches his prime, that’s what he could be.”

Where will that be? As a designated hitter in the American League? That’s obvious speculation, but Schwarber has improved as an outfield defender – his strong throw at Dodger Stadium led to another NLCS Maddon Moment where the manager compared the Buster Posey Rule to the Chicago soda tax.      

A 43-45 record at the All-Star break also exposed some of the weaknesses in the clubhouse and downsides to Maddon’s methods. The Cubs flipped a switch in the second half, got hot in September and had the guts to beat the Washington Nationals in the playoffs. But that doesn’t completely wipe away the concerns about a group that at times seemed too casual and unfocused and didn’t play with enough edge. For better or worse, Schwarber approaches the game like a blitzing linebacker.

“He’s got a certain toughness and certain leadership qualities that are hard to find,” Epstein said, “and that we don’t necessarily have in surplus, in abundance, running around in this clubhouse, in this organization.

“A certain energy and grit and ability to bring people together – that’s important and we rely on it. But the biggest thing is his bat. We think he’s the type of offensive player that you build around, along with a couple other guys like him.”

Maddon would never admit it, but was the Schwarber leadoff experiment a mistake?

“I’ll judge that one based on the results and say yeah,” Epstein said. “I think we can talk about the process that went into it. Or in an alternate universe: Does it pan out? But those are just words. It didn’t work.

“Everything that went into Kyle’s really surprising and difficult first half of the season, we should look to correct, because that shouldn’t happen. He’s a way better hitter than that. What he did after coming back from Iowa proves it.”

 

In the same way that Maddon should own what happens with the next pitching coach, Epstein will ultimately have to decide Schwarber’s future.

Schwarber didn’t complain or pout when he got sent down to Triple-A Iowa this summer, finishing with 30 homers, a .782 OPS, a .211 batting average and a 30.9 strikeout percentage.    

Trading Schwarber would mean selling lower and take another team having the same gut instincts the Cubs did in the 2014 draft – and offering the talented, controllable starting pitcher that sometimes seems like a unicorn.

Is Schwarber still the legend from last year’s World Series? An all-or-nothing platoon guy? An intriguing trade chip? A franchise player? Eventually, the Cubs are going to find out.

“We have to look to do everything we can,” Epstein said, “and more importantly he has to look to do everything he can to get him to a point where he’s consistently the quality hitter and tough out and dangerous bat in the middle of the lineup that we know he can be.

“He wasn’t for the first half of this year – and he knows it and he feels awful about it. He worked his tail off to get back to having a pretty darn good second half and getting some big hits for us down the stretch.”

And then the offseason was only hours old by the time the Cubs showed they will be keeping an open mind about everything this winter, not afraid to make big changes.