Mike Tirico, Cris Collinsworth, Mike Tomlin, Rob Hyland
Sept. 3, 2026
THE MODERATOR: Good afternoon. For the 21st consecutive season, NBC Sports presents the opening game of the NFL season and this year marks just the second time the NFL Kickoff Game is on a Wednesday, as we have the Seahawks-Patriots Super Bowl LX rematch. And on Sunday, Sept. 13, we have the Cowboys visiting the Giants in the 14th meeting between the clubs on NBC Sunday Night Football.
Joining us on today’s call are NBC Sports NFL play-by-play voice Mike Tirico and analyst Cris Collinsworth, who begin their fifth season together in the booth. We have coordinating producer Rob Hyland, who begins his fifth season leading NBC’s Sunday Night Football coverage. And the newest member of our Football Night in America team, Mike Tomlin, who comes straight off the field following a head coaching-record 19 consecutive seasons with a record of .500-or-better with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
ROB HYLAND: We are thrilled to kick off the 21st season of Sunday Night Football. It’s hard to believe this marks the fifth season of Mike, Cris, and Melissa together.
Coming off the Super Bowl in Santa Clara, we are eager to build on that success while continuing to innovate and evolve our presentation for our viewers.
As you mentioned, it’s also my fifth season overseeing this franchise, and I’m humbled by the opportunity and proud of what this extraordinary team has accomplished together and even more motivated than ever to elevate the show to even greater heights this season.
We are equally excited to welcome Mike Tomlin as the newest member of our NBC Sports team. I’ve sat across the table from Mike in numerous production meetings over the years and often thought about how compelling he would be on television and how incredible he would be.
After 19 incredible seasons in Pittsburgh, that moment has arrived, and luckily, he’s on Team NBC. Having him join us is really gratifying, and I can’t wait to hear what he says every Sunday.
I’m going to turn it over to Mike Tirico to begin the conversation.
MIKE TIRICO: Thank you, Rob. Super excited to be with you and Cris and Drew and Melissa for our fifth year as a team. It’s as long as anybody’s [current] run together in all of those positions, and it means a lot to us that the band is back together.
We were in Canton, Ohio, a month ago for the start of the preseason, and it felt like it was right where we left off in Santa Clara. That’s one unknown that does not have to be dealt with. We all know the ways that all of us like to steer the ship and like to dock it and launch it every week. We look forward to doing all that.
It’s a thrill to have Coach Tomlin with us. I keep hearing that commercial with Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. We’ve got two “Mike Ts” on the show now every week. I’m glad to take a backseat. I know that Coach will have a 20th consecutive non-losing season because it’s going to be all victories when you sit in that chair.
We look forward to having not just Mike’s expertise but also being on the road with our whole Football Night crew led by Maria Taylor and company for the season.
Personally, for me it’s a thrill. This is my 30th NFL season but half of those seasons have been lucky to be the lead broadcaster calling play-by-play on one of the primetime NFL games. You do a lot of things, but there’s nothing like the energy of the lights on Sunday night or Monday night, in this case for me now Sunday night, in an NFL stadium, and fans know their team is on a national stage, and those players know it, too.
They bring it on a regular basis and it’s an honor to bring it to America every Sunday.
Send it over to someone who for many, many years set the standard for his peers in the industry, Cris Collinsworth. Partner, go ahead.
CRIS COLLINSWORTH: Thank you, partner. Appreciate it. I was just thinking as you were making your comments, here’s Mike Tomlin, who for years and years and years he sat on the sideline with some of the most consequential games and some of the most exciting moments that we got a chance to partake in, and he comes over to television, and the first thing we ask him to do is a commercial with a camel.
That’s a little bit of a transition as we get started with all this. Don’t forget, it’s not Thursday night, it’s hump day! And we are off and running on Wednesday.
Honestly, we get to this point in the year, and it’s a long year. It’s seven days a week. It’s all that kind of stuff. But I’ve never done it in any one of my years of starting it that you’re just not super excited to get a chance to do the first game of the season, to kick off the NFL season, and to get a chance to do it with Mike, Mike, Mike and Mike, Mike, Mike, on either side of it. I’m really pumped about the whole thing.
Now let’s introduce the star of our show today, Mr. Mike Tomlin.
MIKE TOMLIN: Cris, thank you, man. I think that describes my mindset. I just have an unbelievable level of excitement, not only about the challenge of sharing my love of the game with fellow football lovers, but also being the new guy. I respect that component about it. I’m really excited about getting started.
I’ve been really blessed in my football life. I was able to spend 19 years with an absolute blue blood organization not only in football but professional sport, and I really feel the same way as I get into the broadcast world. Man, NBC’s Football Night in America and Sunday Night Football is and has been the gold standard as far as I’m concerned.
So, it’s exciting to be a component of that. While at the same time, I’m feeling the pressure also because I got a responsibility to uphold that standard.
I’m a driven guy. I like challenges. Certainly, this has been challenging and fun at the same time. But I’ve had a lot of awesome assistance over the last six months with men like the two men I’m on this call with. The real “Mike T” and Cris have been awesome in terms of mentoring me and teaching me what it’s about.
And the same thing that goes for my partners at Football Night in America. It’s Maria and the rest of us because that’s how good she is, man, and we’re having fun. So, I’m excited as well.
Q. Just a quick question for Rob. What are you guys looking at heading into this year from a production perspective? I know obviously coming off of a Super Bowl there’s always a big wave of momentum, but what are some of the cool production tools as well as strategies coming out of last year that you guys will bring into this year?
ROB HYLAND: Every offseason for us begins in April, and we begin holding weekly production meetings to examine really every aspect of our presentation and identify opportunities where we can improve the broadcast and better serve the fans and viewers.
That process led to a few updates for the season. We debuted a brand-new graphics presentation for Super Bowl LX that was kind of bespoke for the two teams playing on February 8. We’ve expanded that graphics package for all of Sunday Night Football and Football Night in America, so presentation has a fresh look to it.
We have a few new camera positions, a couple specifically designed to provide additional coverage along the end line using Cosm technology. We have cool technology that we first debuted at the Olympics that will enable players, family members, and connections to send clips directly from their cell phones to our EVS network so that they can document their experience in the stands in a really authentic way, and that can hit our network and turn around as a replay instantly.
Then I think you may have seen at the Super Bowl we debuted wind metrics, the ability to measure wind at different levels and elevations within the stadium. We will have that technology available to us if wind is a factor on Sunday Night Football this coming season.
So, a lot of little things that add up to a collective group of changes and updates that you may notice, but they’re all at our disposal when needed.
Q. This is for Cris, and maybe, Mike, you could weigh in at the end. I wanted to get your opinion on Amon-Ra St. Brown and what makes him a great receiver. Mike, if you have any thoughts, you played him last year, just kind of why he’s so special.
CRIS COLLINSWORTH: There’s a handful of people in the NFL that you kind of feel like if you’re in a dark alley, you’d like to have them on your side kind of thing. I know Amon-Ra is not the biggest guy in the world, but I’ll take him anywhere.
I think he’s truly one of the toughest guys I’ve seen play the game of football. He’s smart. I can [tell] because I played receiver, I can see him thinking like a quarterback. I can see him anticipating where those gaps and where those holes are going to be. You can watch him block. It’s impressive. And he has a competitive instinct that is raw, that you can feel doing the broadcast.
I think there’s some people that are born with that and some people that just aren’t, and he’s just one of those. I honestly -- I love watching (Jared) Goff and Jahmyr Gibbs and (Sam) LaPorta and all the super talented guys out there, but I spend a little extra time watching the way that St. Brown attacks the game of football. It’s cool. It’s cool to watch.
MIKE TOMLIN: I share a similar eval. I think his singular trait is fearlessness. He’s a football player first and a receiver second. He does football-player things. You never see him shrink or blink. A lot of receivers shrink and blink in between those hashes.
He does a lot of his damage on the interior portions of the field, and you just never see any flinch in his play, and I think that’s physical and mental tough.
CRIS COLLINSWORTH: We’re already off and running with the “Mike Tomlinisms.” Shrink and blink. I just wrote that down.
Q. This is for Coach Tomlin. You’re not going to see the Steelers until November in Cincinnati and then December back at Acrisure Stadium. Have you given any thought to what it’s going to be like to come into the stadium and not coaching and analyzing the team? What do you envision that moment is going to be like for you?
MIKE TOMLIN: I hadn’t done a whole lot of thinking about that. I’m sure I will, but I’ve got so many challenges between now and then, being in an unfamiliar space.
Man, I had good nerves about going to Canton and performing in that environment. I’ve got two performances here in Week 1, and that’s what’s really been dominating my thought, just preparedness in those areas.
I certainly know what you mean when you ask the question, and I’m certainly sure that I’ll have some interesting feelings and so forth driving to the stadium but not being in fight mode, et cetera.
It’s good to know that I’m going to walk in and out of that stadium undefeated, I’ll tell you that.
Q. For Cris and one for Coach Tomlin. I guess first for Coach Tomlin, just in terms of that first night, there’s nobody who knows what it’s like to face a John Harbaugh team better than you. I’m curious what we should expect to see from John Harbaugh’s Giants this season?
MIKE TOMLIN: Harbs (John Harbaugh) definitively has a mode of operation. He has a definitive style for how he engineers victory, and I just think that’s a major component of winning and winning consistently.
He’s a good, established coach. I think the Giants are a really good organization. They’ve had bad teams, but I think it’s a good organization. So I think that the fix there is going to be quicker than maybe outsiders might realize.
I’m not putting them in the Super Bowl, but I certainly expect those guys to be competitive and be competitive almost instantly. I just know that about Harbs. His training camps and how he develops a team has been well documented. They may have the best preseason record, teams that he’s coached, in the history of the game, and I just think that speaks to process of team building and preparedness.
I’m not going to be shocked when they show up in that stadium and they play with a really high floor. They’re solid in all areas. They don’t beat themselves. They won’t be highly penalized, et cetera, et cetera. I just have that level of feeling about Harbs and what he’s capable of delivering.
Q. Cris, more than a decade ago, there was a blue No. 13 that did something on Sunday Night Football for the Giants against the Cowboys that you were certainly witness to. What flashbacks will you have on Sunday when 13 in blue runs out of the tunnel with Odell Beckham Jr. back in the Giants uniform?
CRIS COLLINSWORTH: Well, I try hard to not cheer during a football game, but I’ve got to admit I was pretty pumped when I heard the news, that he had made the team and that he was wearing 13 again.
I’ve had several conversations with OBJ (Odell Beckham Jr.) since then, and it’s kind of a wonderful little shared common bond, I think, that we have that he made that play. What was so interesting about that play, and even as I watch it back, is how it just sort of slowly evolved and got better as we went. Do you know what I mean?
It was like, first, I didn’t know he caught it. Then I was like, did he catch that? And it was like, yeah. But then you also knew that he got fouled just before he got to the catch point, so surely he stepped out of bounds; and then no.
Then as they did it in super slow motion, we saw that instead of catching it with his hand, he caught it with three fingers on the hand and then had to get his feet down inbounds. So he got fouled. He caught it with three fingers -- it’s like it just, every replay something new got revealed as to the greatness of that catch.
Yeah, the first thing I’ll do when I see him warming up, I’ll look down in that left end zone and enjoy a moment.
Q. Coach Tomlin, you took over at Pittsburgh quite a while ago with an established quarterback and a very talented team. I wonder what should Jesse Minter, taking over in Baltimore with a similar setup should have as expectations for this year? And for Cris, what are you kind of hoping to see from Lamar in the next evolution of his game and this new offense under Declan Doyle?
MIKE TOMLIN: I think Jesse Minter is going to do a great job. I think he’s more than prepared. He’s a second-generation football coach. I worked for his dad in the late ‘90s when he was in high school. He was always around it. I think he’s mature beyond his years because of coming up in the game in that way.
I just think when you’re looking at the Ravens’ organization with the stability around Eric DeCosta and the hardest working retired man in football in Ozzie Newsome, I just think they’re really set up to have a high floor. I certainly think it’s not going to be too big for Minter.
CRIS COLLINSWORTH: It’s really interesting. I know Jesse pretty well because his dad was here in Cincinnati coaching. I was talking to him on the field the last time we had one of their games, and he was talking to me at length about the impact of Mike Tomlin and when he was a coach there, and he just loved Mike’s approach to coaching.
He was the ball boy or whatever it was that he was doing, but he would always find a way to work his way over to the defensive backs. I think that’s what you were coaching then, right, Mike?
MIKE TOMLIN: Yeah, and Cris, you’re absolutely right, he and I did have a really good relationship. I just really loved and appreciated his passion for the game. He gravitated to me; I gravitated to him. It’s just really an interesting story.
But the football world is a really small one and there’s some of that, but I’ve known that young man since he was 16, 17, and I am not surprised at all that he’s doing what he’s doing.
CRIS COLLINSWORTH: And as far as Lamar (Jackson), to me, that one feels like it’s always the hardest offense to try to stop. In its simplest form, I always think of Lamar Jackson, of Derrick Henry running one way, maybe the greatest running back in the game now, and Lamar Jackson maybe the greatest quarterback going the other way, and I don’t know what to do.
We’ve seen games, Mike and I have done games where it’s just like, oh, my gosh, how do you stop this? What do you do to that kind of superstar approach going both ways? Everything I’ve heard and read and talked to people about is that Lamar is on point, that he came to the early days of OTAs, he came when the rookies were in there. He’s in shape maybe that he hasn’t been in in a while and he’s trimmed down, and we’re going to see the true speed Lamar Jackson that maybe because of injuries we haven’t seen the last couple years.
But the prospect of that is always exciting, always exciting. When you go in that stadium to get a chance to see Lamar Jackson, and if he’s a step up health-wise, conditioning-wise, and emotionally at this point in his career, then we’re all in for a thrill this year.
Q. Mike, welcome to the media world. You were always great to deal with, so looking forward to seeing you on NBC this year and in the future. My first question is for Cris and Coach Tomlin. I’m just curious, as it relates to the Patriots, based on your experiences, what are some of the challenges that a coach and a team face coming off a Super Bowl loss? How difficult is that to kind of regroup for the next season?
CRIS COLLINSWORTH: Unfortunately, I have the most experience of that. We lost twice in that situation. This feels like a very different team to me. I mean, a very different team.
You go back and you go, all right, why did they lose the game? They really struggled to block their offensive left side. They had the two rookies over there. Will Campbell was limping around, coming off an injury. I really respect him. There are a lot of players who wouldn’t play with an injury like that going against great pass rushers like Seattle has, but he gave everything he had. He did his best. I’m sure he spent the off-season in the weight room getting ready for that bull rush again.
They moved Jared Wilson inside. I’m excited to see what’s going to be different. But the biggest thing obviously is you don’t add A.J. Brown and Romeo Doubs to a football team with a guy that has the ability to throw the deep ball like Drake Maye has and not get better and be more intimidating as an offense.
They got a good long look at what they had to fix this season. I also think they’re going to have to find a way to get Drake Maye’s legs involved in the game.
One of the really interesting parts of that Super Bowl was that Maye had been really beating people with his legs and he didn’t that game. He didn’t have those sort of two or three signature runs that maybe would have broken the game the other way.
They’re a lot different. I think it’s a different football team. I expect honestly a better game than what we got in the Super Bowl.
MIKE TOMLIN: I think it’s going to be easier for them to turn the page than a lot of outsiders would think, and there’s two significant reasons. First, I think I read they’ve got 23 new players. So, that’s half the guys suited or so on game day that weren’t a component of that experience. So, it’s not their individual story.
The other component of it is some of the most significant guys who were participants in that game are very young players, and I just think there’s no substitute for experience. I think the mentality regarding the experience is different when you’re 23 and 24 than it is when you’re 31 and 32.
So, although it was a negative outing and outcome, I think it’s going to be a positive experience for guys like Drake Maye, like (TreVeyon) Henderson, and like Will (Campbell) at tackle. I just think it’s part of their growth process.
Unfortunately, we all hate it, but sometimes you’ve got to lose before you learn how to win. It’s kind of the same feeling that I had watching the San Antonio Spurs in the NBA Playoffs, and I think the same thing could be said for Mike (Vrabel) as a coach.
You know, it was his first year there. I’m sure he laid down some foundational things, but I think regardless of what happened in year one, you sit back and look at it through a 360-degree lens, and you make whatever necessary changes to get better. I think there’s a growth process in that as well.
Q. Just a quick follow up. I don’t know if you saw the social media post rocketing around X yesterday. I think it got like 16 million views. It showed how the Patriots would put the all-22 film on the scoreboard during field goal kicks that the other team was lining up for, so there would be this optical illusion of the double field goal, the double goal post. I’m just curious, is that something you would see often? Is that a unique thing the Patriots are doing? How common is it for the scoreboard to be doing things like that during games?
MIKE TOMLIN: I think you see little nuances from different organizations and different venues that try to create an advantage, if you will. But there’s strict guidelines about what can transpire in-stadium during the course of a game.
I don’t know the impact of it. I guess it’s based on the kickers themselves and their ability to narrow their focus and do what they’re called to do. I’d be interested to see statistically if it shows any difference in performance for the opposing kickers.
Again, any differences statistically might just be environmental as well. It’s challenging to kick in New England in November, December, and January, and so I imagine that’s a component of it as well.
I saw the piece you’re talking about. It didn’t strike a chord with me, to be quite honest with you.
Q. Mike, I’m curious, though, at the end of 2025 when we talked with Aaron (Rodgers), he said that he was ready to retire and be done. Obviously, that’s not what happened. I’m wondering if you had any inkling at that point when the season ended that he might be back for 2026 and be back in Pittsburgh?
MIKE TOMLIN: I didn’t have any inkling at the time, but I’m not surprised. I think the reason I’m not surprised has been well-documented. That guy has a love affair with the game of football. He’s certainly capable. He’s healthy. He feels like he can win and win in Pittsburgh.
So, although I didn’t have an inkling at the time, I don’t know that I was thinking about it, but I’m certainly not surprised.
Q. What did you appreciate about him (Aaron Rodgers) after it was all said and done? I know we’ve asked you that you didn’t know before, but now being where you are on the outside looking in and can kind of look back at the total view of it, what do you appreciate from that year that you’ve had with him?
MIKE TOMLIN: What an awesome teammate he (Aaron Rodgers) is. He doesn’t get enough credit for that. And I don’t know that he wants or is looking for credit for that. I think he probably enjoys the adversarial relationship that he has with media at times, but day to day behind the scenes, this guy is a great teammate. He loves the process. He’s a component of teaching and educating young players. He thinks about the collective. He’s legitimately unselfish. There’s a lot to like about AR.
Q. Another Giants question for you since you’re going to see them in Week 1. With Jaxson Dart, what kind of jump do you expect to see from him as a starting quarterback in his second year back in the NFL?
CRIS COLLINSWORTH: I honestly just finished watching everything he did last year because I didn’t think I had a great feel for it. I just sat down for one whole day and watched them all.
I understand why the level of excitement was what it was. He’s an exciting football player. I don’t know what he’s going to do on a given play.
He makes some sensational plays. He missed some reads that I would be mad if my high school quarterback missed on occasion, or gets hit, or doesn’t see something coming. His scramble runs look like he’s running for his life out there, diving headfirst and not sliding.
Some days, watching tape can be work. That day wasn’t work for me. It was incredibly fun. It was entertaining. It was enjoyable to watch.
I always think you can take a tiger and teach it to do tricks, but you can’t teach somebody who does tricks to be a tiger. So, I like who they have. I like the fact that he’s got all that inside him. I think he’s going to come out rip roaring. I know they’re going to try to calm him down and they’re going to try to make sure he doesn’t get hurt and all that, but I’m not sure he has that in his gene pool.
It just looks like he’s one of those all-out, all-the-time, every-play kind of guys. It’s fun to watch. It really is.
MIKE TOMLIN: Yeah, I think that there’s an emotional competitor component to his game that’s really attractive. It’s really Baker Mayfield-like.
In terms of improving, I think that all players are positioned to make a significant jump between year one and year two.
I think during your second lap around the track, you know where the turns are. There’s just better fluidity to it. I think it tees you up for better play with that life experience.
But at the same time, I’ll temper that excitement because he doesn’t have continuity in terms of play calling and coaching staff, and I think you maximize that get-better from year one to year two when somebody’s in a stable environment. I think it’s less than some when you have new things to learn, new terminology, new relationships, et cetera.
Q. This question is for Mike Tomlin. Mike, how are you looking at broadcasting in the moment, in terms of the near term or long term, and what are your thoughts on how long you might want to do this?
MIKE TOMLIN: I haven’t done a lot of speculation there. I’m enjoying the process of preparing myself for this challenge, so that’s where my focus has been. I’m sure I’m going to get asked that in a variety of ways over the season.
To be honest with you, I hate that for the football world. Unemployed coaches are always getting speculation on where they’re going next, and I just hate what it does to the coach that’s in place.
So, my focus is this job that I have right now and doing the very best that I can for NBC Sports and the team that I’m with. I’m excited about that.
Q. I just wanted to ask what your thoughts are on the season opening up on a Wednesday this year. I know that Hans Schroeder had mentioned that the NFL would use it selectively maybe in the future. But just your thoughts on if this could be something we see more of. Also, for Mike Tirico, I think we’re about three weeks away from the 20th anniversary of the Hurricane Katrina game, the first game after. Just any thoughts there and if you’ve kind of grappled with or reflected on it?
MIKE TIRICO: Sure, thanks. Not the first time a Wednesday has been used for the opening game, but obviously it’s not common. I think there is a good cadence for everyone in general. But if the data comes back and the league sees that everyone is interested and is watching on a Wednesday, I would not be surprised to see different days of the week show up going forward.
I do think the cadence of Thursday, Sunday, Monday on a regular basis feels right for the fans at home in general.
I think the NFL is such an entertainment powerhouse that people will adjust their lives and schedules for the right matchup and the right game. A rematch of the Super Bowl, a couple of high-profile teams, makes sense. And it makes logistic sense to clear out time so they can play Thursday night, which is Friday morning in Melbourne.
I think if it works and it continues to work, which I expect it will, thanks in large part to the awareness of the camel commercial that the game is on hump day on Wednesday, that I think it adds possibilities there.
Funny you mentioned the Katrina game. We do enough traveling during the season, so I just made plans to go down to New Orleans for Falcons-Saints. That game was one of the most meaningful games of my career. It was only the third game I did as the lead voice on the Monday Night Football package, and that game has stayed a part of why sports mean so much to me.
As a matter of fact, I don’t have a ton of pictures up. I’m sitting downstairs in my basement because there’s a tornado warning here in Ann Arbor, Michigan, where I live. If I look around, there’s one picture of a game in my basement, and that’s the opening kickoff of that game. That game meant so much. It showed the world that New Orleans was open and ready for business again, 55 or 56 weeks after Katrina.
I don’t remember any other game that had that kind of an impact on a city announcing to everyone else it was open, save 9/11, but that was for a variety of sports in New York.
So, it carries incredible meaning. I have reflected on it. I talked to Drew Brees when I saw him at the NFL Hall of Fame. We have a Sunday night game the night before, but I just want to be in the Dome that night. I feel like it will be pretty special as they celebrate what the game meant to the city as a whole.
Timely question. And yes, it certainly has had an impact on my life just to see that night, see the city, and watch New Orleans come back from that, which makes me really happy.
CRIS COLLINSWORTH: I’ll just say this, as the NFL expands their international schedule, which I hope they do more of, I love the idea of playing football around the world. And now with the Olympics, we’re going to get a chance to see flag football, both men and women, from around the world. We’re excited about that too.
I think the schedule is going to have to be more flexible as we go along. It really would only be fair to San Francisco and L.A. that they -- if they’re traveling to Australia, that they’re given a little time to come back and readjust for their second game, right?
I don’t know all the nuances of how they’re going to do it, but it helps me. The more football I get to watch in one-off games, the less homework I have to do at 7:00 a.m. in the morning. You can put it on every night of the week for me. I’ll be just fine.
Q. My question is for Coach Tomlin. There has been a lot of attention this off-season on Caleb Williams. Liam Coen even made a joke about all the images he’s seen of him on NFL.com and that he’s on the cover of Madden. I’m curious, as a coach how you would guide a young player through that, getting all of this national attention this early in his career. Then to put your new television analyst hat on, I’m curious if you think this hype is merited around Caleb Williams?
MIKE TOMLIN: I don’t know that there’s a lot to manage there. I think each individual player has a different journey and different story. Caleb (Williams) was a quarterback in L.A. for USC, and I think there’s a certain intensity that comes with that. He didn’t develop into their franchise guy; he was drafted to be their franchise guy. They moved on from Justin Fields when they acquired him.
So, I think he’s going to be comfortable in his shoes. I think that’s less of a discussion. I’m optimistic about the trajectory of things for him, but not necessarily because of him, but because of him and his relationship with Ben Johnson.
He took a significant step in year one with Ben, and I think it’s reasonable to expect him and Ben to build upon that and be even better with more positivity and less negativity in year two of their collective.
I think the hype is merited because of those reasons, but I don’t know if that’s something that they need to manage or spend time talking about or watching Caleb in that way. He’s kind of been a one-man corporation since he was a teenager. He’s always approached it in that way, to my understanding. He started as a very young guy at his first institution.
So, I just think that although he’s somewhat young, he’s not new to the intensity of the spotlight.
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